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1909 S VDB

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 Posted 09/11/2008  03:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Texas collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, Rainman, I found a 1909 VDB, ef-au in circulation. Someone used it to buy a CD at Wal-mart and I happened to be the one who checked him out. Like my coin shop guy said, "somebody got into dad's collection." It's not an "S" but still a pretty good find.

Sorry Teuk, I don't know anything about sending coins for grading either. I'm sure someone knows...
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 Posted 09/11/2008  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1. The coin in the first post of this thread grades NO HIGHER than VF20. I don't know what the rest of you are seeing as EF-AU, but that simply isn't the case.

2. The coin has been cleaned at one time, which may very well affect your ability to get it into any kind of reputable slab.

3. I'm a little iffy as to whether this coin is even genuine. It looks like it could have an added mintmark, but it's very hard to determine by images alone.

Best bet would be to send it in to ANACS for either a grade or a 'genuine' holder. Fee is the same for each, and it will definitely come back in a holder that way. If you send it in for a grade only and they determine it to be a cleaned coin, you may get the coin back without a holder and be out the money.
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 Posted 09/11/2008  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chuck - I respect your opinion to the highest level. I'd agree the obverse is likely in the VF range, unless better pictures show otherwise. However, the reverse is much nicer. The wheat grains and wheat heads are barely worn. That made me suspect a couple things:

1) The coin was face down sliding back and forth on a car dash for a few years. hehehehehe
2) The obverse die was late stage and worn at the design high points.

Also have to say the coin is free of any major hits and the rims look good. I'd also compare it to Jaobler's 1909SVDB:

https://goccf.com/t/33940

The wear on this coin is a lot LESS than his PCGS VF35 IMO. That would put it into the EF range.

OK....you asked! LOL
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 Posted 09/11/2008  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Teuk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well how much is the fee? and how long would it take?

Also I'm pretty sure this coin genuine, its from someones private
collection. He took pride in his coins and I highly doubt he would
have a fake coin in one of his books.
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 Posted 09/11/2008  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"cleaned coin" could be a big issue though....
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Quote:
Well how much is the fee? and how long would it take?

Also I'm pretty sure this coin genuine, its from someones private
collection. He took pride in his coins and I highly doubt he would
have a fake coin in one of his books.


You'd have to join ANA or PCGS to have it graded. I think you should find a local coin dealer you trust and have them submit the coin for you. Just ask them approximately what they think the fee would be. Also, ask them what their opinion is on the coin.

The pictures are not all that great, but I don't really see any indication of cleaning. It seems to have a nice, even brown surface to me. Detecting a cleaned coin can be very difficult without having it in-hand. Chuck might see something I do not, but he is the forum authority on Lincoln's beyond any doubt.
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 Posted 09/11/2008  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin, but I have to say it looks cleaned to me also like copper coins said. Send it to either ANACS or ICG because you can send to them without having to pay for a membership fee and they will slab your coin even if it's cleaned or has another problem with it.
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