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1829 N2 Large Cent With Reverse Cud. Unlisted Die State?

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 Posted 08/13/2019  10:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add algol to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey everyone, opinions would be greatly appreciated.
I have stumbled across a weird one I think. I havent been able to find any other 1829s with a reverse Cud such as this. I checked the Holmes sales and even busted out the old Newman book. Google nor ebay showed anything similar.

What is baffling me the most is while searching through John Wright's Cent Book trying to identify this Cud is that under 1829 N1 he states on page 167 under Striking Variations that "A mail-bid offering by Tom Warfield in 1956 listed an N1 'with rim break over TAT.' Nobody I know of has seen one or heard another rumor of such a coin. The listing likely referred to a 30-10 (or 22-9 or 17-17.)"

Imo I think that 1956 n1 was really an N2 with Cud, which is what I think this is. Wright makes no mention of N2 with a Cud on reverse
Is this not a rim break over TAT on the reverse? Is this an unlisted/unconfirmed die state? From the pictures (not mine btw) this appears to be a Cud and not PMD.

I just cant believe if I'm right that this hasnt been found before. Id love to be schooled and told I'm making a mtn out of molehill. Sorry for the long winded post, but this one really has me stumped.

Thank you for looking and for your expert opinions.

edit: title and another question added

1829-N2-Large-Cent--With-Reverse-Cud.-Unlisted-Die-State?
1829-N2-Large-Cent--With-Reverse-Cud.-Unlisted-Die-State?
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08/13/2019 10:36 pm
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 Posted 08/14/2019  05:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@algol, rather than Cuds on STATES, those look like old rim bruises to me.
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Yes, would be better to see a picture of the edge.
(I realize it's not your coin).
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I would lean toward edge bruises as well.
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 Posted 08/14/2019  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add algol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone. On reconsideration I am in agreement. Wishful thinking gets the best of all of us sometimes.
My favorite part about this forum is I have always learned more by being wrong then right.

Admins feel free to delete this thread if needed.
Thanks again.
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