To Grade Or Not To Grade 1865 2¢ Piece With A Pre Cud - Would You?

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Yokozuna Pillar of the Community United States 4618 Posts	Posted 08/17/2019 11:19 pm This coin is the best condition of any 2¢ piece I've ever owned. It's a RDC-2c-1865-04R using the Cuds-On-Coins web page as a guide. It has grease filled areas on both sides and many tiny die cracks extending out from the ribbon and wheat stalks on the reverse. It seems to be uncirculated, but I have no idea of the value. Do pre Cud errors command a preimium? What do you think it would grade if sent to PCGS? Features you can't see from the photo. The 2 has a rim all the way around that stands up above the center of the number. Also, the weakness on IN GOD and TRUST and on the last A of AMERICA looks like grease filled letters to me. The word WE is strong and that too leads me to believe it's UNC. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! Report this Post to the Staff

westcoin Pillar of the Community United States 9792 Posts	Posted 08/18/2019 05:23 am I have around 3 or 4 of this variety, highest grade is in a MS63BN holder from PCGS lowest is probably a Fine. Not a real common variety, but not as hard as one might think to find either. I've seen at least 3 of these the past year for sale on ebay, some mentioned the Retained Cud others didn't. I'm thinking it will bring a bit of a premium, maybe 10% or 20%. If the coin is MS (I can't tell from these photos), then it can't hurt to grade it, but PCGS, NGC won't label anything about the Retained Cud that I'm aware of. ANACS might list it as a Retained Cud on the label if you pay them extra for the error description. Oih82w8 has one a touch nicer than mine too. We found out in this thread a few years ago. I think his is MS63RB or 64RB also PCGS IIRC. http://goccf.com/t/154188 unfortunately it looks like all the photos from that thread were on photobucket, so now gone. Here is one of the raw coins I have (rev only sorry): and the PCGS MS63BN: As you can see PCGS didn't mention anything on the label so to me it's not worth sending it in and paying a bunch to get the coin back without the label, unless the coin is grading MS63 or better - IMO. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 08/18/2019 09:30 am Don't know whether pre-cud examples command a premium, but the OP's coin is certainly an attractive one (64BN?) that would probably justify a holder in any event. Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 73747 Posts	Posted 08/18/2019 12:35 pm Very nice coin and Pre-Cud! Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
collectinsince65 Valued Member United States 320 Posts	Posted 08/19/2019 3:06 pm Very nice coin and great eye finding it! Report this Post to the Staff
just carl Bedrock of the Community United States 20753 Posts	Posted 08/23/2019 09:26 am I'd put that in an Album. Report this Post to the Staff
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