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Need Some Help Determining 1988 LMC If Reverse 89

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When they refer to stages A, B, and C of a die, they are measuring the progressive wear of a singular die correct? I'm finding it hard to find a definitive answer but that's probably just because of my lack of knowledge.

Also this is a 1990 which in theory should have the same reverse as the 006.

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I'm going to say yours is the transitional error
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Right GinCoin still learning here also the problem with seeing the examples posted on here of what something "should" look like whether it's transitional errors or doubling of devices or anything like that is it is showing you usually on a coin that is in perfect condition and with equipment that is high grade versus real life scenarios where the coins that we're looking at are worn from circulation and not always so clear-cut. If you look at wexler's website and start to look at the listings you can see that some of them are very subtle not always as clear-cut as these examples would make it seem. They are great tools but they are just that tools some is still left up to interpretation.
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the problem with seeing the examples posted on here of what something "should" look like whether it's transitional errors or doubling of devices or anything like that is it is showing you usually on a coin that is in perfect condition and with equipment that is high grade versus real life scenarios where the coins that we're looking at are worn from circulation and not always so clear-cut.


I'm pretty sure you and I would be more confused if they used damaged coins as the examples Though my pictures certainly would benefit from better equipment. Thankfully we have this wonderful forum were we can discuss our opinions with people with much more knowledge.
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For sure and that is the point I'm eluding to, is that the forum needs the experts and those educational examples but it certainly needs interpretation because the coins we use are often times circulated or variations of a more clear cut error.
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If you are talking about Variety Vistas listing of Stages, Then they are not always different die states, but stages as to events that happen to a die. Die crack, chip, events that happen, changes of the opposite dies, but they often list the different die states as part of the description.
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Thanks Coop, I was referring to Wexler's listing of the various transitional dies used in the 88. They list a die crack as a marker for their 1988 1¢ WTRD-001 Reverse stage B, but your explanation was very helpful.
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Thanks too everyone who has participate in this past some very good information being relayed on here
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Seems I was wrong on this one, and I'll own up to it. Appologies to David.
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Thanks GrapeCollects this was a tough one I still feel like there is more going on there and will try to look better at it
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I highly agree with E&V. The glare in your pictures is causing the "G" to look bigger and have a flare, like the 89 reverse is suppose to have. Less glare pictures can settle this.
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I will be getting better pictures tonight, thanks Coinhunter
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It's all good GrapeCollects. The glare from the lighting in the pictures made it difficult to evaluate correctly. Hopefully, better pictures with less glare will be posted later.
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Agreed. This one was definitely difficult to judge. The FG looks fat, but doesn't look like 89 reverse to me. My thing is, if I can't clearly tell that it's 89 reverse, I always assume rdv 005
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No problem CoinTheTerm. Was glad to help!
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