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United States
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*** Edited by Staff to Add Year / Mintmark / Denomination to Title. Titles are Important! ***Nice sharp detail ( for 1916s ) I personally love the toning. Is that also Machine Doubling on IN? Also, is toning taken into consideration when grading?   
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Canada
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coin has been cleaned, that is why you are seeing those colors.. the coin is turning colors, in reaction to what ever was used to clean it..Not a proof coin..
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Not structed with a proof die . Nice business strike though obverse is fairly mocked up . EF-45/50 . Not sure if it would detail .  |
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United States
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Ol Abe looked good in 1916. The obverse design had some great details and many of the fields had a matte finsh. A lot of great looking coins are around from 1916. This is one of my favorites from that year being that it has a tilted die clash as well.   |
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 United States
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Thanks Silverwolf and T-bop. I knew it wasnt a proof since it has the S mint mark. I guess the older wheats have a nicer strike then I'm used to seeing with my 30's or 40's. I am wondering how I can spot cleaning rainbow vs toning rainbow? PCGS has certified the real rainbow toning with this date, I'm trying to see the difference.I bought some obvious ( to me ) fake rainbow toned LWC for my educational collection to compare against. For the fake fake..it shows colors around the devices. Almost like build up junk.This one doesn't. Are there any other things to look for to spot this? |
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1915, and 1916 were known for strong matte prooflike strikes due to extreme care in die prep and creation.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree OP's coin is a cleaned and re-toned EF example at best.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wow Stoneman..that is beautiful! So how do you know if its cleaning or toning? Trying to learn this one.
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Wow Stoneman..that is beautiful! So how do you know if its cleaning or toning? Trying to learn this one. first look at the fields in your coin, then look at the fields in stoneman's photos. see all the dashs and hits, in your coins photos. then you can see the toning on top of it all..toning on top of damaged fields is an indicator of artificial toning..toning on clean fields is not always 100% correct , but is a good starting point.. |
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United States
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Another good indication of natural toning is when colors appear and disappear as the angle of the light hitting the coins surface changes. My Beautiful 1934P-1dr-004 discovery coin https://coppercoins.com/lincoln/die...ie_state=mdsIs an example. Here it is with the best lighting to show color and then lit to reduce color.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Regardless, it's still a beautiful cent!  Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Here is a business strike coin I've owned for several years:  The 1916 coins had a better design on them than other years.   Another one I bought off ebay years ago. |
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United States
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Those are beautiful Coop! Thank you Errors.. I find this one very charming either way! And then I come back to Stonemans pictures because mine only looks like that in natural daylight. I took a couple pictures inside to show the difference.   Edited by Rabbithole1
08/29/2019 12:49 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The 1972 type 2 ike is a proof die design on a business strike coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That and the trasitional WAM/CAM Lincoln cents, the Type B-H Reverses as well for the Washington quarter. |
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United States
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Those are proof die designs, but they are not dies that were polished, used for proofs, and then used for business strikes. They did sometimes use proof dies for business strikes in the 19th century, but I can't recall any cases where they did so in the 20th century or later.
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Posted 08/28/2019 7:57 pm
