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I was looking for images of Machine Doubling on doubled dies and was making side by sides for a normal coin, a doubled die with Machine Doubling and a doubled die without Machine Doubling. Got the images all ready to go and discovered the PCGS slabbed a none DDR as a DDR, with Machine Doubling. Not sure how they missed this, but they did. On the second set of images, the slab numbers are there. So take a look to see if you can spot the read DDR?      Did you spot the one they slab incorrectly? https://www.PCGS.com/cert/84926408 Note it is slabbed as a FS-801? Well it is not that die number. It is a normal coin. How would you like it if you paid full price, when they made the mistake. So remember. Buy the coin, Not the plastic. Check to see that the coin really is, as it should be. They make mistakes to. Don't let yourself get stuck with a bogus coin. If the images don't help, don't buy it. On the plus side, I I'd one that I did find myself that is the correct DDR. If anyone would like to see images of it, I can post them. But the stock images are above.  Well this one is not the same die number. I though I had one:  Edited by coop
09/03/2019 12:05 am
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The third one is the DDR. Clear enlargement of the devices and notching. You would think a big company like PCGS could tell the difference! -CH27 Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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yup definitely the third one
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What threw them off was the MD on the EPU. They thought it was the same as the DDR. Wrong! You have to check other others. On markers and exact matches on doubled dies, I look for at these three areas that confirms that it that die. The messed up on several I've spotted on there grading. 1909 VDB 1102 _JPG_AAA.jpg) And a few others as I've found in the past. But who am I to tell them? LOL
Someone bought this coin for $900 in 2018. Edited by coop
09/02/2019 11:11 pm
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3rd one DDR. Splits can be seen on E |
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Someone bought this coin for $900 in 2018 What a joke! Lol |
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CoinTheTerm, your pics are AMAZING. Please tell me you use a phone to take them
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Machine Doubling is a plague. It would be interesting to see how many MD examples you can find in a box of cents, compared with doubled dies. I know with the ATB Quarters, with the incuse devices the MD is at 70% of the that coinage.
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thanks Evan7, I used to use my phone and a homemade holder but the lighting was always off, so I took the advice of the experts and now I have a usb microscope with homemade lighting and platform.
I agree with coop great point, and for us beginners its sooooo difficult to distinguish sometimes
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09/02/2019 11:26 pm
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@coop, if I'm buying a slabbed variaty, it's going to be NGC or ANACS. PCGSs' variaty department is quite awful and gets it wrong as often as they do right. ANACS might not have the name, but they have the best varity dept in the business.
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I think the worse MD I've seen is on the date of a coin is a 1969-S Cent:  Runner up: 1957 Cents   |
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On the PCGS coins, they sell for more and you will probably get a better return for the money. Plus you can check them on line to see if they are really the real deal or not. They have very large images. So you will be more able to see more problems with the larger images. I'm recommending being sure, before you buy the coin. If any question at all, move on to another coin. So I'm not saying they make a lot of mistakes, just every now and then. Be sure you are getting the right coin by seeing the variety on the coin regardless of what grading company. If you can't then move on to another coin. Be firmly convinced before you buy.
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hey coop funny you bring this up tonight here is an example of extreme MD I came across tonight, great example of MD Is that a 1985-D? John1  |
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Posted 09/02/2019 11:04 pm
