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Yes I agree. It's a mystery to me. One time I look I see no indications of dots, then I can imagine where the dots may have been. The only thing I can't reconcile is all 3 dots gone with no trace evidence. Dan
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Yokozuna;
In you animation photo of my coin, what is your opinion ?
Dan
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Panther asked... Quote: Yokozuna;
In your animation photo of my coin, what is your opinion ?
Dan I think I see the indention better when I view the animation, but it could be adding a touch of self induced Pareidolia to the situation. The areas I see on your coin correspond well to the size of the missing dots, where as the indentions on Jim0815's coin seem much larger. As it turns out, I have a Mint State 1909 V.B D with a single period after the V. The photos I have don't show the detail needed, but here's a quick detail of a much larger regular DSLR shot. I'll be working on a detail with my digital microscope as soon a finish with this post. 
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
Edited by Yokozuna 09/19/2019 4:49 pm
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This is the best I can do with a slabbed coin and my digital microscope. The thickness of the plastic interferes with the first stage of focus. 
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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This thread made me look at my 1909 VDB and guess what? Yep I have no dots either and mine is a MS one.. WEIRD. My 1909 S VDB has dots though.
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Need to wait for the article to come out to understand the known stuff. Then wait for more of these on high-grade coins to show up and get photographed. It's a really interesting bit, but lots of UNC 1909 VDB coins out there to help figure it out.
If it's a something, great that Jim figured it out, as he's an awesome dude.
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Just to let you know, the article comes out in this Saturday's online edition of Coin World (print issue to follow). And just to let you down, I wasn't able to select among the multiple working hypotheses that I entertained. Perhaps, as Tropicalbats says, the accumulation of more high-grade specimens might eventually break the impasse.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Thanks tropicalbats for the compliment my friend! Mr. Diamond, I look forward to reading the article! Mine maybe the first to have been so closely scrutinized, I just hope it's not the last so we can one day know for sure what caused it.
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Any subtle circular depressions on your no-dots specimen when viewed under a microscope?
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Mike,
There are tiny circular impressions when viewed with a 20 power binocular microscope, but there no dots.
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My guess is a mint worker thought the dots were die defects and polished them out.
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hfjacinto, are the "impressions" raised or sunken?
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Mike,
I can't tell, I can almost make out a semi circle where the dots should be but there are no dots or depressions that I can see.
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