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Unknown Very Worn Roman (?) Ae26 - Any Chance Of Identification?

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I bought this coin (fairly cheaply) a few years ago, apparently tried to look it up and got utterly stuck (too few details to attribute by).

Found it again today, could not remember what it was either (I actually thought it was a sestertius, but some googling just now told me that an as was more likely), and decided to leave it to the good folks of CCF.

Any ideas what this could possibly be?

The fat right-facing bust kind of stumped me, because I don't recall any emperors looking like that; if you don't think this is Roman at all, please say so.

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26 mm, 10.75 grams. Judging by Numista examples, this probably means an as.
Seriously no idea which particular type - there are far too many.
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 Posted 09/12/2019  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Might be Hadrian, but I think it's too far gone to say for sure.
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I was thinking Hadrian, too, just from the upper right bust outline.
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How about a Roman Provincial of Hadrian? (Example coin specs below and photo then your coin I worked on a bit.)
Mysia. Hadrianotherai. Hadrian AD 117-138.
Bronze Æ 25 mm., 9,81 g.
ΑΔΡΙΑΝΟΣ ΑΥΓΟΥΣΤΟΣ, laureate, slighty draped bust right / ΑΔΡΙΑΝΟ#8722;ΘΗΡΙΤΩΝ, Tyche seated left, holding patera and cornucopia.

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How about a Roman Provincial of Hadrian? (Example coin specs below and photo then your coin I worked on a bit.)
Well, comparing this with my coin, the reverse does appear to be someone seated left holding a patera and something (I'm not sure if that's a cornucopia, but it could be), but while the obverse also appears to have a laureate bust right, this one is of completely different shape at lower left (and not that similar at lower right either).

That said, I checked all the results for "holding patera and" for Hadrian on Wildwinds and couldn't fit a match (but of course even Wildwinds is far from complete).
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Yeah I figured imperial like an as coin but could not make the size work with the pattern on acsearch so I went more to match the seated figure. Still I recognized the lower left on the obverse had that issue.
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but could not make the size work with the pattern on acsearch
I should probably have mentioned that the 26 was rounded up - the true diameter is more like 25.7 mm, and another example of the same size might well have been recorded as 25.

That said, at this level of wear, the original diameter was probably larger anyway.
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Reverse figure might be holding a trident (maybe) and the coin seems awfully round. Any chance that the figure is Britannia or other personification and that the coin is not ancient? Just a thought...
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Reverse figure might be holding a trident (maybe) and the coin seems awfully round. Any chance that the figure is Britannia or other personification and that the coin is not ancient? Just a thought...
I've had the same thought too - the bust shape looked much more like George I or III than any Roman emperor to me, and that sure looks like a trident behind the seated figure's head on the reverse!

But of course on the British types the trident is much farther from the head, and the size isn't quite right either (at this size it would've been a halfpenny, but real halfpennies are slightly lighter and noticeably larger).

Though this thing, whatever it is, sure would have passed for a halfpenny in Canada two hundred years ago! (Or in England a few decades earlier, for that matter.)
I actually started wondering whether it could be a blacksmith token, but I don't think that option fits either.
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Have you considered Antoninus Pius? look at the slightly upturned to the right face of the emperor, a common feature with his coins.
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I am not sure Who it is but I am pretty certain that it is an extremely worn Hemidrachm from Alexandria, Roman Egypt.
Sometimes when I look at the Obverse I see Trajan, then Hadrian
I will go with Hadrian.
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