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I am writing an article for myself on exonumia, and in the process looked at the definition of coins in the CCF glossary: Coin Quote:
Metal formed into a disk of standardized weight and stamped with a standard design to enable it to circulate as money authorized by a government body. Yet some coins, listed as such in standard catalogues, are paper, fibre, leather, or plastic. Some are not disks, like the Thailand "bullet" coins. Some of the modern mint issues are anything but disks yet are issued by mints. Some coins in the catalogues (admittedly not modern ones, and there probably was a standard in theory) are of rather variable weight. Is it possible to find a definition of coins that includes these "exceptions"? Or are these exceptions not coins? And just to muddy the waters, is there a definition that distinguishes a paper coin from paper money, also known as banknotes? Of course, we still collect what we want regardless of definitions. |
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And just to muddy the waters, is there a definition that distinguishes a paper coin from paper money, also known as banknotes? Depends on what kind of paper coin...   (yes, this is traditionally considered to be a banknote, and honestly probably is one) |
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Pillar of the Community
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If you're looking for a single word, then no. Even ebay got it right with 'Coins Paper Money" |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Replace government body with issueing authority.
That goes a long way to still be definitive while opening the door to more varieties.
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CCF Glossary is lacking in some areas. John1  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Metal or other material formed into a rigid disk or similar high aspect ratio object of standardized weight and stamped with a standard design to enable it to circulate as money issued by an identifiable authority authorized by a governnment body.
- "or other material" permits paper, porcelain, etc.
- Rigid distinguishes it from thin paper.
- High aspect ratio means it can be circular (disk), annular, square, triangular, or irregular, but must be much smaller in one dimension than the other two (this wording could be improved upon)
- Stamped must be removed, because this eliminates casting
- government body must be removed because of irregular issues (siege coinage, etc)
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09/15/2019 8:43 pm
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@tdziema, that definition is pretty good, but "bullet" coinage would be eliminated. But then again, maybe that should not be considered a coin. Money, yes but not a coin.
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But it took 6 more words.
Never a good thing with definitions.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I really never thought of exactly what is a coin. I normally just assume a coin is just a round thing used as money. Made of massively different materials. Not sure I'd consider other shapes as coins though.
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Not sure I'd consider other shapes as coins though. Some authorities would disagree: Israel (1960-1980 reformed agora) Egypt (Fuad I 2 1/2 milliemes) Bangladesh (Peoples Republic, 5 & 10 poisha and 5 taka) Bahamas (10 & 15 cents) to name a few. I would give an over-generalized definition of coin as: Quote:
Authorized tender that is minted (as opposed to printed "notes") And minted as: Quote:
base material fabricated into an identifiable object As new technologies emerge and new substances considered for use in authorized tender, old definitions simply do not cover the entirety of possibilities. Obsolescence of word definition is a natural outcome of advancement. The meanings of words change and grow with these advancements, but the general concepts behind them stay pretty much the same. |
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that is minted (as opposed to printed "notes") This reminds me of the silly idea I once had (not sure if I have mentioned it anywhere before) that the Transnistrian plastic "coins" are technically not actually coins, but plastic banknotes that happen to be small, rigid, and weirdly shaped. (They do share a lot of features with banknotes as well as coins; I'm not actually sure whether they count as minted or printed.) |
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