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Is There A Breakdown Again In The Production Of The $100 Banknote?

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Colorized Banknote introduction
29. Sep. 2019 den years ago
13. Mar. 2008 $5 11.5
2. Mar. 2006 $10 13.6
9. Oct. 2003 $20 16.0
28. Sep. 2004 $50 15.0
8. Oct. 2013 $100 6.0

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The initial production of the colorized $100 banknote went about as badly as possible. When the big-headed $100 banknote went into production in October 1995, the new secure color banknote was promised within a decade.

Production did not begin until February 2010 and it was catastrophic. Over a billion notes were produced until they decided that the printing errors were so severe that the notes could not be released. The BEP began producing a version of the old series starting in January 2011 with the signatures: Cabral-Paulson even Paulson was Bush's Secretary and had left the Secretary position on January 20, 2009 with the inauguration of Obama.

The Bureau of Engraving and printing stopped posting monthly production figures for about two years to obscure the problems they were having.

As late as April 2017 (3 months after Trump's inauguration) the BEP was still printing $100 bills with the signatures: Rios-Geithner even though Geithner had resigned as Secretary of Treasury on January 25, 2013 (over 4 years earlier). The BEP still has yet to produce a $100 or a $50 banknote with Steven T. Mnuchin signature even though he has been Secretary since February 13, 2017.

Once again the BEP has stopped posting monthly production figures. There is a post for January and May of 2019, but no post for Feb, Mar, Apr, Jun, Jul, and Aug. The only plausible explanation is that the production of the $100 banknote has broken down again.

It's an interesting coincidence that just as President Trump is madly tweeting about zero or negative interest rates, that the USA $100 banknote production would break down.

Much to the dismay of Japanese economic advisors, the Japanese people keep a tremendous amount of value in banknotes because they see no advantage to depositing the money in banks. They are even fearful that negative interest rates will result in bank fees that will erode their bank accounts.

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I mentioned this to someone that there were about 12 billion colorized $100 banknotes produced and 9.5 billion $20 notes still in circulation, and that BEP might be having production problems.

His response was "who cares". We have plenty of plastic plus paypal and a dozen other fintech apps. People don't really need the $100 banknote anymore and we shouldn't be printing money for foreigners to use. The FED should just stop ordering any new $100 banknotes and let the bulk of the ones in circulation vanish into furnaces over the next twenty years. Let the gamblers and drug dealers find a new way to handle transactions.

Any response?
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Since I have been involved in these discussions on CCF, I have looked around me a bit more, and seen these situations.

1. I usually pay my Real Estate Tax bill in person at the county treasurer's office since it is near where I work, and this allows me to pay at the last minute if I want. I pay by check, but I see a large percentage of the in-person transactions being done in cash (for obvious reasons). Usually hundred dollar bills involved, given the size of this type of transaction. I have watched some transactions where the bills on multiple properties were being paid in cash, and seen some pretty impressive wads of bills.

2. More surprising to me, I was recently standing in line at the customer service line at a Home Depot store. The woman next to me was holding her most recent Home Depot credit card bill, and a wad of cash. WHen it was her turn, I watched the cashier count out somewhere between 8 and 10 $100 bills and some smaller notes. It hadn't occurred to me that people are paying "store" credit cards in cash like this.

3. As for there being "plenty of plastic" etc. for paying for things, the retailer pays a fee for this, and some retailers will either offer a discount for cash, or add 3% if you want to use a credit card. Gasoline retailers are one example, but I also just ordered some new windows for my house, and was told that paying by credit card would incur an additional 3%, which in this case added up to over $100 (i.e. "real money.")

This last example has come up every time we discuss this, and I don't see avoidance of this unwanted fee going away unless it's forced upon the public.

4. As late as 2017, there was statistical evidence that large percentages (39%) of in-person transactions are carried out in cash https://www.frbsf.org/cash/publicat...ment-choice/

I work in a small retail store in an upscale urban neighborhood and can say from anecdotal experience that:
- fewer than 10% of our transactions are conducted in cash
- we receive about one $100 bill per day
- drug dealers do not pay with $100 bills. They pay with ones and fives




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Once again the BEP has stopped posting monthly production figures. There is a post for January and May of 2019, but no post for Feb, Mar, Apr, Jun, Jul, and Aug. The only plausible explanation is that the production of the $100 banknote has broken down again.


This letter acknowledges receipt of your Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 552, received in the Bureau of Engraving and Printing's (Bureau) Office of the Chief Counsel - FOIA & Transparency Services on June 4, 2019, requesting the monthly production reports for the months of February 2019, March 2019, April 2019, and May 2019. For tracking purposes your request has been assigned as FOIA Request No. 2019-06-083. Unfortunately, the Bureau is experiencing technical database difficulties with the ability to compile and produce these reports. We are hopeful that the issue will be resolved and that the reports can be generated and posted online by this fall. Please feel free to check the monthly production logs for the requested years using the monthly production logs link at http:llwww.moneyfactory.com/resourceslproductionmonthly.htrn1 in early fiscal year 2020.


A BEP spokesperson told Coin World that the reports for February, March, and April will be published as soon as the agency has completed its transition to a new reporting system, which will alter the appearance of how the reports look and read.
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As long as we have poor people we will have cash.
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@SteveInTampa: Thanks for the update about the monthly reports backlog.
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