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Jeff 5c FS - Do You Agree Or Not?

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Several areas on this coin need clarification from my point of view.

Please comment on the two red 'dashed' lines and four white 'dashed' arrows which mark the regions where I personally have some questions.

More specifically, do the four white dashed arrows point to places where the risers have been compromised enough to nullify the existence of an FS?

And do the two upper and lower 'dashed' red lines highlight risers that are either non-existent or incomplete?

I am able to clearly see only four steps and 'possibly' five risers. Is not is true that there must be at least five steps to be called a FS?

The 'solid' lines on the right side of the photo point to either a riser(solid red) or a step(solid white).

Once I receive several posts with opinions and answers to these questions of what we are looking at, I will disclose the year/photo of this particular partially disguised 5C coin:

Jeff-5c-FS---Do-You-Agree-Or-Not?

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 Posted 10/02/2019  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This does not look FS to me, especially on the left side.
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Even without your excellent graphic help this doesn't appear to be close to FS.
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Not Full Steps. Area is too riddled with hits.
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First of all, your nickel has to be at least a 60 to qualify for the FS designation.

Second, it must have 5 unbroken lines.

Your piece, IMO, is a no-go.

But keep up the search, I scored a '72 from a box this summer.












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 Posted 10/02/2019  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not seeing a FS.

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Second, it must have 5 unbroken lines.

Doesn't that depend on what year it is? Are there not certain years that have 5, and some years have 6 or 7?
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You're right, John. I should have said date dependent. And then we have those '60 era tough ones.
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I chose this sample because I really wanted to know what to focus on and off of when deciding to send it in to a TPG with variety attribution. I agree with you guys and gals that it sure does not appear to be even a 'barely-made-the-mark' FS variety.

Take a look at this hallmark coin on the PCGS CoinFacts header page's representative for 1965:

https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...-5c-fs/84077

The FS-supporting qualifying factors appear to be weak to say the least. Just on a side note not requiring a response so as to keep the focus on the FS, the grade of a 66 seems hardly attainable with the quantity of nicks and indentations present on the reverse especially surrounding the Monticello structure; the obverse has deep scratches that warrant a 64 at most IMO.
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Here is the same exact coin for sale for $ 49,250.00k (or is that a typo) at collectorscorner.com. CoinFacts has it at only $ 40k for a 66:

http://www.collectorscorner.com/Pro...?id=44624291

I certainly would love know the thinking and criteria implemented to come up with the classification and pricing for this coin. Has PCGS ever responded to anyone questioning a CoinFacts grade used for any of their illustrations?

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