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How To Spot A Fake £1

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 Posted 09/22/2008  04:23 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
There is an interesting video on the BBC site showing how to spot a fake £1. Apparently The Royal Mint say there are 30 million of them in circulation

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7625570.stm

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 Posted 09/22/2008  07:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Forget The Royal Mint - collectors say there are at least twice that many of them out there! (or so I read somewhere..). I keep getting them in change, so I try and use them in the store that gave them to me ;) (the grocer's haha..)

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 Posted 09/23/2008  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty amazing...would you say the banks dropped the ball regarding removing these from circulation? Is the weight exactly the same?
I suppose if enough are dumped on the market, nobody wants to be left holding the bag.
If you have one of these fakes, I might like getting one for my collection.
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09/23/2008 1:58 pm
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Another thing about these fakes that I've just thought of, is that the brassy outer surface is actually quite thin so you sometimes notice the steel underneath when the coin has been scratched. So that answers another question - of what they are made of - steel is a very cheap metal!...
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Steel...they're magnetic? That should be easy to filter.
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 Posted 09/23/2008  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Filter where?
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Coin counting machines should be able to filter via electrical signature. In the US, the publicly available Coinstar machines will reject silver and steel US coins, foreign coins, and any type of slug.
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sorry...perhaps I'm assuming something where I have no clue, particularly if the fakes are non-magnetic. Are they?
I'm just "wondering out-loud" if bank counting machines filter out magnetic coins, such as our CoinStar counters do here?
The sorting mechanics are pretty easy to do. This thread got me wondering if our $1 coins are being copied.
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1. We're not in the U.S. - 2. Again, where do we put the filter to find these things before they are used and found in change?
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1. Right 2. I thought many countries use mechanical counters (merchants, banks, etc.), and will try to sort out magnetic and slugs of wrong weights. If that doesn't apply here...no biggie. I'm not trying to put anyone on the spot--I'm really wondering how banks protect themselves. It applies here as well, as some 30 million fake $1 coins have originated in S.America.
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09/23/2008 6:16 pm
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I have no idea really... :( but that doesn't take them out of circulation until they get to the banks anyway so there isn't that much that can be done but to be aware of them I guess..
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G'day,
so, are they magnetic or not ?
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 Posted 09/24/2008  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it of infinite importance?
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