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Quote: Big sellers are the ones that overwhelmingly use stock photos for expensive coins like gold. I'd stay away from listings with stock photos (usually, the dealer will say that it's a stock phote). The coin you get might be spotted, badly toned, overgraded, etc. Of course, there are worse things an ebay seller can do, like sending an empty packet, taking your payment and sending nothing, etc.
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Quote: I'd stay away from listings with stock photos (usually, the dealer will say that it's a stock phote). The coin you get might be spotted, badly toned, overgraded, etc.
I generally agree as well. If it's a 10 or 20 dollar coin kind of whatever, but anytime you see x/y available it's a stock photo which does get used on bigger coins by big sellers. These mostly bullion purchases nothing wrong with it, just something for people to be aware of and keep in mind you will probably pay a touch more for someone that took the time to list an individual one.
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I've been buying the odd pre-1933 U.S. gold coin for several years but have stayed away from the graded/slabbed coins mainly due to te higher price. Over the past 2 days, however, I purchased one each of the final 4 years of $10 Liberty Eagles minted at Carson City from Coast to Coast Coins & Currency, as follows: 1890-CC 1891-CC 1892-CC 1893-CC Each coin was shown with obverse & reverse as well as a pic of the PCGS slab with their reg number & grading info. I paid a premium for at least one coin but these are the last 4 years of production & were coined in limited numbers from the shrinking supply of Comstock Lode gold. These coins are history. Not only were the CoastCoin people friendly & efficient in processing my orders, I was encouraged by their top rating with the BBB as well as their 100% positive feedback score in their ebay store. They also have a 14-day return policy, so I felt confident in dealing with them. There was a thread 9 years ago in this board that spoke very negatively about this firm. Apparently that thread is locked because I could not post to it even after having sent a message to a moderator.
Edited by JacksinPA 10/23/2019 9:14 pm
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I would guess you paid a healthy premium over bullion on all of those JacksinPA. CC eagles are a favorite of mine too.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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That is a shame on the fakes. I bought a gold dollar recently, but I am confident on the seller and the pictures they post to be legitimate.
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I checked prices for the stated PCGS grades against the numbers given in Encyclopedia of Gold Coins. In the case of the 1890-CC I did pay a hefty premium but I assigned my own personal value to a historic series of coins, historic both from the standpoint of the Carson City mint & from the standpoint of the dwindling supply of gold from the nearby Comstock Lode. I had recently finished reading a book on the history of the Comstock. While a local auctioneer told me that a collection is not worth more than the sum of its individual components, I consider this historic series to be worth more to me than the same $ amount of paper money that I had sitting in the bank. I also identified a reliable & local supplier of vintage U.S. gold & silver coins & am still curious as to what happened to that 9-year old thread bad mouthing Coast Coin.
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As expected, both coins purchased on 10/22 arrived in my P.O. Box today: $10 1891-CC & 1892-CC. I am very pleased with both the coins & the service. Both PCGS file numbers check out online. The $10 1890-CC & 1893-CC should arrive tomorrow according to the USPS. A local banker collects Carson City Morgan dollars & asked to borrow my book on the history of the Comstock Lode, which was the source of the silver that went into minting those coins. He is interested in seeing my 4 Carson City eagles so I will be stopping by his office on my way to my safety deposit box. It's a shame to lock up such beautiful & valuable coins but our quiet suburban town was the recent victim of a knife-wielding robber at a local book store. Five years ago there was a local rash of breaking-and-entering robberies in our quiet neighborhood. The gang would ring the doorbell to see if anyone was home, then check for unlocked windows & doors in order to gain entry unobserved. Our lawyer nearby was one victim. I've become compulsive about checking door & window locks. I leave the motion-activated floodlights in our side yard on 24/7. This is where my Kohler 14 kW genset is located & is fenced in, so the windows on that side of the house make ideal targets for B&E thugs, especially after dark. The floodlights would scare away anyone prowling back there because they have no way of knowing if it also triggered a silent alarm or CCTV camera.
Edited by JacksinPA 10/24/2019 9:38 pm
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Quote: ......the dwindling supply of gold from the nearby Comstock Lode  I thought the Comstock Lode was silver? To answer your first question, I would buy certified and crack them out if I wanted them raw. Current premiums for certified gold pieces are very reasonable. Post some pics when you can.
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From the Wiki article on the Comstock Lode: The Crown Point-Belcher bonanza was discovered in 1870. The ore body extended from the 900 to the 1,500-foot level (275 to 460 m), having a length of 775 feet (236 m) and a width of 120 feet (37 m). The ore, the precious metal value of which was 54 percent from gold and 46 percent from silver, lasted only four years. 'The total production of ore extracted and milled in the Comstock District, 1860 to June 30, 1880, was 6,971,641 tons, 640 pounds.  Peak production from the Comstock occurred in 1877, with the mines producing over $14,000,000 of gold and $21,000,000 of silver that year (about $329,393,750 and $494,090,625 today). The Comstock Lode was both silver & gold. When first found, the placer gold miners from the 1849 California gold rush were only looking for the yellow of surface gold & discarded huge quantities of a bluish material that, when later assayed, turned out to be silver sulfide (Ag(sub2)S). This is a naturally occurring mineral form of the dark coloration that you clean off silver ware. I'm new here & can't figure out how to upload the pix of my new coins. Please let me know how. Thanks!
Edited by JacksinPA 10/24/2019 9:48 pm
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My reference material on the Comstock is a chapter in a book titled Silver in the Golden State, which is primarily about silverware and plate. Gold was a secondary but important product of the mines. They were extremely deep and dangerous mines.
That part of Nevada fascinates me and I've visited several times. Always something new to discover. There are still some active mines, but it all looks like surface pile leaching rather than underground.
Photo uploading is fairly simple. You have to use the image optimizer to get the file size down to what will post, then save the optimized image, then upload and post it. The images you upload cumulate on the site so you can use them again.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq 10/24/2019 11:46 pm
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 As a new collector I say just keep away from Gold for now.
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Gold and silver usually occur together in nature, it's just the proportion that varies. The Comstock was mostly silver with some gold, in California it was mostly gold with some silver.
[quote]Peak production from the Comstock occurred in 1877, with the mines producing over $14,000,000 of gold and $21,000,000 of silver that year (about $329,393,750 and $494,090,625 today).[quote] You see that the value of the gold produced was 2/3rd that of the silver, but remember that the PRICE of gold was 20 times that of silver. $14 million in gold would be around 700,000 oz. $21 Million in silver would have been close to 21 million oz.
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It's unlikely that the Comstock gold ended up in the later cc planchets, but it was probably Western gold. Carson had a lot of issues, not the least of which were corruption and the proximity of SF. The assay office stayed open for years after, as did offices in places like Boise.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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I just received the 1890-CC & 1893-CC $10 coins from Coast Coins & checked their numbers against PCGS. They scored 100%. I paid a hefty premium for the 1890-CC but only 17,500 were minted, making it relatively rare. And it is an almost uncirculated AU58. The 1893-CC was the last eagle minted at Carson City.It was graded VF35 & is beautiful.
The instructions given on uploading pix are unclear as I am not familiar with the 'photo optimizer'. It would be a lot easier if there were a pic upload button on the control panel where you create/edit posts.
Not to repeat myself, but Coast Coins will get my business from now on. Their stock is incredible & prices are reasonable. And you can't beat 2 day delivery to my P.O. Box. I've had people ship me stuff by Registered Mail & it took weeks to receive the item.
Edited by JacksinPA 10/25/2019 2:02 pm
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Granted, the photo upload is tedious Jacks. Even when you get used to its foibles. But they can't load up on giant picture files here.
That hot blue mud is what made Comstock mining dangerous. The lodes weren't composed of solid quartz and granite, and they sloped steeply. The stoped timbering system developed to keep them from collapsing was clever and allowed the companies to mine then out very fast. The hills around Lake Tahoe were stripped of their big Ponderosa pine for timbers, which were flumed down to the Washoe Valley, then hauled up to Virginia City by the V&T Railroad.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq 10/25/2019 2:49 pm
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