How Rare Are 1863 Cents With 105 Degree Rotations

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twohawks Pillar of the Community United States 1551 Posts	Posted 11/10/2019 11:01 am OK I ran into this while organizing a few coin boxes. I have an 1863 Cent with a 105 degree clock-wise rotated die. I asked Brain R and he said he had never seen one, and he is one of the Error guys that has held more error coins than most. Report this Post to the Staff

Tunnioc Pillar of the Community United States 3181 Posts	Posted 11/10/2019 11:27 am Here's a site http://rotateddies.com Report this Post to the Staff
just carl Bedrock of the Community United States 20753 Posts	Posted 11/18/2019 3:23 pm Nice looking coin. So how do you know it is 105 and not 104 or 106 degree rotated? It's great but not sure it is worth a lot more than a coin in that great shape. Report this Post to the Staff
twohawks Pillar of the Community United States 1551 Posts	Posted 11/20/2019 4:32 pm Well The good oool Leroy Van Allen rotation Mylars. LOL I sent it off for grading, its an AU 55/58 Brain Raines said he had never seen one before and that is something. Report this Post to the Staff
Jayyk31 Valued Member United States 211 Posts	Posted 12/03/2019 08:50 am Very cool man! Awesome coin! Report this Post to the Staff
Bump111 Pillar of the Community United States 3327 Posts	Posted 12/03/2019 10:32 am First of all - beautiful 1863 cent regardless of the rotation! I decided to be slick and mimic the standard vertical flip of your coin to ascertain the rotation factor. Here is the reverse photo as edited: Based on this orientation, it looks like the rotation would be a little less than 90 degrees and CCW (the hammer die is usually the one rotated, correct?) I think it was a little more common to find rotated dies on the older presses. I'm always learning and would welcome the comments of the experts. "Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 12/03/2019 8:28 pm Quote: (the hammer die is usually the one rotated, correct?) Depends on how the die bodies are constructed. Are they a cylinder on a base it could be either one. If they are just a cylinder then it would be more likely to be the anvil die that rotated. If the set screws that positioned the hammer die were loose enough to allow it to rotate, it would also fall out of the press. Report this Post to the Staff
twohawks Pillar of the Community United States 1551 Posts	Posted 12/05/2019 9:35 pm I just had it graded its an NGC AU-55 and thats what I thought it was. PCGS requires you to send it in under Error Attribution for 50.00 plus the 10.00 sheet or processing fee, single coin shipping at 24.00 so call it 80 bucks for an AU coin to get graded. If it was a 1,000 coin one could understand kind of, but PCGS is really starting to believe the hype they have been selling or drinking the cool aid they have been selling. Report this Post to the Staff
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