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1909 Indian Head Cent, L Is For Longacre

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 Posted 09/28/2008  11:55 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add cearnan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I noticed this on a 1909 Indian cent I have. Is this doubling evident on all 1909s? Unfortunately, I do not have any other uncirculated specimens to compare this against. By the way, this is a shot of the "L" on the ribbon.

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 Posted 09/28/2008  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
I'm looking in my attribution guide for 1909, and judging by your detail pic, this could be the Snow-1 (Master die doubling), which was seen on many obverses.
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 Posted 09/28/2008  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cearnan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Kurt! When I have a bit of money I am going to pick up the rest of the snow guides. I only have the first one...
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Here is a 1909 IHC I currently have labeled FS011.9, but think is a SNOW-2, due to the comments in CPG that the SNOW 2 has also doubling on the base of the 1. I also have doubling on the left side of the 9 loop also.

Cernan, do you see any doubling of the letters or numerals?
Kurt, do you have any info on Snow 2?

Photo of Doubled "L"

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And Kurt, this 1909 does have doubling that doesn't have the regular shelf appearance of machine.
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Thanks both of you.

Jim


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 Posted 09/28/2008  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice shots!
Yes, I have the S-2 in my attribution guide, but this DDO is so slight that I cannot see much of anything from Rick Snow's photos.
I wish I had this variety so I could say for sure--it's sure not like the 1887 DDO, lol.
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 Posted 09/28/2008  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I guess I will have to wait until the new CPG comes out. I know I should also shell out for the
attribution guides. I think they are $90 for looseleaf, and that is inexpensive for the type
of information. I found this 1909 in my general IHC group from years ago. I bought for the condition,
not variety. Sometimes one has good luck!

Jim
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 Posted 09/28/2008  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Here is a good article on the 1909 varieties we are talking about ( about half way
down the column.
http://www.coinworld.com/news/051208/bw_0512.asp

Jim
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 Posted 09/28/2008  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

By the way, Cearnan, good eye! very few would have noticed. I have 1909
IH Cents on my pick list for the next show I go to in Dec.

Jim
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 Posted 09/29/2008  01:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cearnan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Jim. Here is a close up of the 1 and 9 in the date. Seems to be the same as your pics. I only noticed the doubling on the "L" because I obsessively comb over all of the photos of my Indian Head cents



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It does appear to be the same. Any doubling on the letters? "United" seems to be well doubled
on mine. You might check when you can. But still not sure if it a SNOW-2, but I will consider it so until I
find something else :)

Jim
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