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Identification Tips On Contemporary Counterfeit George III Half Crowns

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 Posted 12/17/2019  10:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MaximillianMike to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,

Aside from the obvious bronze or copper CCC 1/2 crown's that are found are there any features to note in identifying real from contemporary counterfeit? I purchased this coin today and while the weight is consistent with the wear, it exhibits a copper-ish color tone and is a bit porous. No casting line is visible nor tooling and the strike quality is there. It was the color that intrigued me as I collect genuine pieces and ccc's alike in any coin series where they're available.

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 Posted 12/18/2019  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MaximillianMike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tough Crowd here. If anyone reads this topic I did a specific gravity that equated to .800 fine. I think the calibration on my scale may be off but not sure it will effect a test involving ratios. It baffles me that a counterfeit would be made to near the same fineness these coins were supposed to be (.925).

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 Posted 12/19/2019  04:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for not contributing earlier. I have seen quite a few contemporary forgeries of early 19th century silver coins, but never got into collecting them or studying them, so little from personal experience to contribute.

I have dug out the website I was pointed to when I last had a query on one of these - I hope this helps:
http://www.steppeulvene.com/index.george_iii.html

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Thank you for the reply and the tough crowd remark was just an attempt at humor. Thank you for the website. I'm going to revisit the specific gravity after Incalibrate my scale but I expect the results will be the same.
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The author of that website, as you might expect, is massively into contemporary counterfeits. I know he contributes to several coin fora - not sure if he comes to this one. Would be worth dropping him a line.
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Thank you again, I sent him an email. I collect contemporary counterfeits in Mexican numismatics which tend to have more monetary value than a genuine coin. I wonder if it's the case for these coins and well?
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"Contemporary counterfeits in Mexican numismatics which tend to have more monetary value than a genuine coin."

Indeed... but long story short, generally not the case with these plentiful 1800s George III types (BOE dollars/tokens, 6d, shillings, halfcrowns).

It's only on the earlier halfpence types, which of course have overlapping interest from the American Colonial collectors, where the prices for interesting material can be strong (the interesting 1773 halfpenny someone just posted here would be an example).
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