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Please Help To Identify (2 Tokens, 2 World Coins, 2 Ancients--See Below)

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 Posted 12/18/2019  3:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nick_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Please help to identify these coins. Thanks in advance.

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 Posted 12/18/2019  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Best to post one or two at a time. But to get the ball rolling, #1 appears to be Nuremberg jeton with lion of St. Mark; #3 is likely as Sasanian drachm, maybe Kavad I (best to post that one in the ancients/medieval section). I wonder if #2 is a so-called "belly dancer" token - others will know for sure. Kushanshah will probably be able to ID the Islamic one at the bottom.
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 Posted 12/18/2019  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree that #1 is probably a Nuremberg jeton, #3 is Sassanian, #6 is relatively early Islamic (7th-10th century or thereabouts). No comment on #2.

#4 is Nepal, first half of 20th century. Not sure of the date or denomination.

#5 is purporting to be a Polish-Lithuanian grosz from 1611 (Kopicki 798), but it's not supposed to be red like that. Could it be a Suceava counterfeit?
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No 2, although frequently listed as "belly money" is probably one of a series of six propaganda medals issued by the French in North Africa in 1857 after the defeat of Emir Abdul Kader.
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 Posted 12/18/2019  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice mix of medieval and modern coins. The Sasanian coin appears to be Kavad I from his 2nd reign 498-531.
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 Posted 12/18/2019  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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No 2, although frequently listed as "belly money" is probably one of a series of six propaganda medals issued by the French in North Africa in 1857 after the defeat of Emir Abdul Kader.

Although the "belly dancer coins" often imitate this design, the imitation is even cruder and less legible than the originals. Here's an original bronze medal of 1857; here's another similar one eBay. The date "1857", in Arabic numerals, is clearly readable. On the OP's coin #2, this "date" has degenerated into a bunch of squiggles only vaguely resembling numerals. It also appears to be brass rather than bronze, and has a hole at the top (which it was presumably manufactured with) for hanging.
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#5 is purporting to be a Polish-Lithuanian grosz from 1611 (Kopicki 798), but it's not supposed to be red like that. Could it be a Suceava counterfeit?


I checked against mine, and am 95% sure it is real, and probably deeply tarnished/toned.
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 Posted 12/21/2019  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
#6 is an 'Abbasid fals struck at al-Kufa in Iraq in the year AH 143 (AD 760). Although coins from al-Kufa of a slightly later date are quite common, earlier dates such as this are not.

The inscriptions on #2 are jibberish. Rather than imitating the 1857 propaganda medal, I will suggest that both the propaganda medal and item #2 imitate the same Ottoman prototype, thus their superficial similarity. The hole suggests a decorative purpose.
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