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Edited by coindexter 10/12/2008 03:00 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Yep:-) It's a slight off-center struck coin:-) It's a nice find for pocket change:-)
Have Fun, Bill
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I do not think that the coin is an off center strike, but more than likely an out of the collar strike. The collar does center the planchet to one of the dies and since both obverse and reverse are not centered on this coin, it would be indicative of such a strike. This would also be why there is no reeded edge on the coin since the collar is the device that puts that feature on the coin.
BJ Neff
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All off center struck coins are struck without a collar keeping them in place.
The opposite is not always true as is evidenced by centered broadstrikes. These are coins struck centered but without a collar.
The coin shown is an off center struck coin.
Thanks, Bill
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Bedrock of the Community
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I wold not call it an off center because none of the design is missing. I would call it an uncentered broadstrike.
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Sorry to disagree with you Bill, however, this is a centered strike on an elliptical planchet. The reason that the struck planchet is elliptical is that there was no collar to restrain the spreading metal. This is a case where the planchet was centered during the strike and the unequal spreading of the expanding metal makes it appear to be off center. In an off center strike, the planchet is not centered to the dies before it is struck.
BJ Neff
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I see you guys are having fun with this quarter.  I always thought the reeded edge was applied before the strike to build up the edge of the coin for the strike.  OK I weighed it against another new quarter. The new quarter is 5.6 oz/176 gr. and the odd one is 5.7oz/182 gr. it looks as if its slightly larger then the other quarter also.(diam.)  Im sitting back in my easy chair learning thank you guys 
Edited by coindexter 10/11/2008 11:50 am
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I forgot to add this to my last post. I do believe that Conder 101 has the correct attribution for this coin, an off center broadstrike.
In this case, the off center implies that the extra metal has not expanded equally and makes the full strike appear off center. Even then, if part of the design element were missing on an off center broadstrike, it would then revert back to an off center strike.
Coinddexter - I believe you are thinking about the upset mill which forms the rims. The actually reeding is applied during the strike by the collar.
BJ Neff
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Ok. Now is it woth more then 25 cents? I know if I put it on e-bay I could ask at least $50 bucks for it.HE HE
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Pillar of the Community
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And you may very well get it.
By the way, what ever happened to that Canadian nickel with trails that you were going to send me?
BJ Neff
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I have been out of town for a few weeks to a family reunion. I'm going to send it to ya on Monday. Do you have a way to get it slabbed for me also? I will pay you any fees for doing it. Thanks again
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Pillar of the Community
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The proper term for this error is "uncentered broadstrike".
Error coin writer and researcher.
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coindexter - that will be great. As for slabbing this coin, unfortunately none of the grading companies have taken on the task of recognizing this type of die variety. That may soon be changing though. The first task is to see if it is what we think it is and that is a trail die. Once that is established, I will talk to some people and see if they will take the step of slabbing it as a trail die.
Thanks coindexter.
BJ Neff
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Vary cool thanks. Ya like I said this coin has been in a wooden box for 40+ years and should be a prime example of a trail coin for every one to see. I know I have never seen one like this. And I have looked through my share of coins. I hope this convinces them to make this error a new die variety. Shane
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