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How Far Back Can We Go? Sixth Edition! Ended At 1380 Waiting On 1379

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Hey, just stumbled across the email in my Spam folder. The unmitaged gaul of gmail. I'll get a 1482 posted in a jiff. Again, sorry I have failed the 1 of 3 days in the year I am useful :P
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Here is an unusual little silver Mongol coin is Central Asia dated to 887AH = 1482. We can move on!


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Here is an unusual little silver Mongol coin is Central Asia dated to 887AH = 1482. We can move on!
Outstanding!
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just stumbled across the email in my Spam folder


No prob at all glad to have your participation. I'll try to give you more notice when we get to 1382.
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As referenced by @jbuck, I have a Double Briquet from the Netherlands Duchy of Brabant (Antwerp mint) dated AD 1481. The four-digit date is on the reverse and uses pretty recognizable forms with the exception of the archaic number four. I recommend using @jbuck's link above to check out some of the conversation from @gal and @tdz relating to this coin.

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@Collects82, Just a small correction, this is not Central Asia, but Crimean Khanate - a Crimean Tatar state that succeeded the empire of the Golden Horde:)
Qirk-Yer is modern day Chufut-Kale situated in Crimea not far from Bakhchisaray.
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Here is the same coin, but minted a year earlier: 1480 Brabant (Antwerp mint). It has the same style number four.


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Same coin for me:

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Obv: Facing lions with a firesteel and sparks between them. MARIA DEI G DVCISS BG BR Z LI (Mary, by God's grace Duchess of Burgundy, Brabant and Limburg)
Rev: Quartered arms over a floriate cross. SALV FAC PPLM TVV DNE (O Lord, save thy people) Ao 1480
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Glad to have a twin posted with you @tdz. Your pics show the color much more accurately than mine do.

@dear, the solution is for you to buy more coins datable to a specific year.
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1272 silver penny sounds fascinating. I only have a few 13th century coins and none of them are datable to a year.

IIRC my next possible entries are in the 1360s, though I did buy one coin supposedly dating to a particular year in the 1450s where I wasn't able to figure out where the date was (I even looked at other examples on Zeno and it didn't help).
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For 1479 I will make it three in a row of same type.
I think the comment has been made here before that these are popular for early dated coin collectors because enormous numbers (for a coin of this size) were struck, and (relatively) large numbers have survived. In Mary's reign (1477-1481) 8 million were produced, and in the first four years of Philip's reign (1482-1485) another 2 million:
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For 1479 I will make it three in a row of same type.
Looking good!

Now we are rolling!
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Yes thx to @tdz for keeping us moving along! I have this Gros from the Belgian County of Flanders (Bruges mint) dated AD 1479. I really like the "swoopy" design of the number 9. Kinda looks like the font used by Jefferson Airplane.

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