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How Far Back Can We Go? Sixth Edition! Ended At 1380 Waiting On 1379

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 Posted 05/23/2023  2:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, while it doesn't affect the progress of this thread, @tdz has rightly pointed out that my recently-posted Gros is not actually datable to 1433 AD, but rather the range of 1419 to 1428 AD. Sorry about that...
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This one arrived over the weekend, but I finally got a chance to look at it in hand to confirm the date.

Jaunpur Sultanate, Shams al-Din Ibrahim Shah, AE falus AH835
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to confirm the date
Can you trace the 5 on the photo? It looks uncomfortably like a 2 or 3 to me. I believe the 5 should be a tilted E shape.

If the date checks out, we shouldn't have any further gaps until 1415, I think. Good thing I bothered to make an extended gap listing four months ago.
("I stopped here [1429] for now because I'm not sure if we really need data past this point" - me, on January 25th, about a point that we might well reach next week if nothing goes wrong. Though AFAIK there's still about 20 gaps between that and my next entry at 1387.)

I should probably write an updated list of the 15th and 14th century gaps (probably again ending at 1307) - a few had been filled since my previous listing, especially in the 15th century, and several that were already filled acquired backup examples.
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I should probably write an updated list of the 15th and 14th century gaps (probably again ending at 1307)
It would be much appreciated!
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Can you trace the 5 on the photo? It looks uncomfortably like a 2 or 3 to me. I believe the 5 should be a tilted E shape.


The 5 is not always in that orientation. Here is an example (AH854) https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?p...y=d&way=desc
(AH845) https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?p...y=d&way=desc

I will try to get some better pictures tonight. In hand, there doesn't appear to be the downward stroke on the left that would be a 3.

However, now that I've traced it, you can tell that it does tilt forward (to the left, or rotated ccw) a bit more than the example above.
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I think @j1m might be right. Will update with pictures later. Next time I'll get more eyes on a questionable date before posting here, sorry.
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Updated gap list, 1432 to 1308.
I'm ignoring coins posted by Grinya, because it's currently extremely unlikely that he could show up here again.

(I'm not going past 1308 because 707 AH = 1307/8 AD is the first ambiguity of the AH/AD conversion where we don't have other coins to plug it up in another way, and past that we have very few dates anyway.
I'd be very surprised if we make it to 1308 anytime remotely soon; even 1350 looks unlikely.)


1432 (AH 835) - apparently none found (bd251's coin turned out to be a different date?)
1431 - Spence
1430 - bd251
1429 - bd251, Spence
1428 - tdziemia
1427 - Spence, tdziemia
1426 - Spence
1425 - bd251
1424 - bd251
1423 - Spence
1422 - Spence
1421 - Spence
1420 - Spence
1419 - Spence, tdziemia
1418 - bd251
1417 - Spence
1416 - bd251
1415 (AH 818) - none found
1414 - erafjel
1413 - erafjel
1412 - JohnConduitt
1411 - Spence
1410 (AH 813) - none found
1409 - JohnConduitt, tdziemia
1408 (AH 811) - none found ! http://goccf.com/t/364499&whichpage=461#3853730
1407 - tdziemia
1406 (AH 809) - none found
1405 - JohnConduitt, Spence, tdziemia
1404 (AH 806) - none found
1403 - tdziemia
1402 to 1399 (AH 804 to 801) - none found
1398 - JohnConduitt
1397 to 1384 (AH 799 to 796) - none found
1393 - tdziemia
1392 to 1388 (AH 794 to 790) - none found
1387 - january1may
1386 - JohnConduitt
1385 - EddieDiz
1384 - tdziemia
1383 - EddieDiz, JohnConduitt, Spence
1382 - Collects82
1381 (AH 783) - none found
1380 - JohnConduitt
1379 to 1377 (AH 781 to 779) - none found
1376 - tdziemia
1375 - Spence
1374 - january1may
1373 - tdziemia
1372 (AH 773) - none found
1371 (AH 772) - none found
1370 - JohnConduitt
1369 - JohnConduitt
1368 to 1366 (AH 769 to 767) - none found
1365 - JohnConduitt
1364 (AH 765) - none found
1363 - JohnConduitt, tdziemia
1362 - JohnConduitt
1361 - JohnConduitt
1360 - JohnConduitt
1359 - JohnConduitt
1358 - JohnConduitt
1357 (AH 758) - Spence's coin is apparently unclear in attribution? I couldn't quite tell
1356 to 1352 (AH 757 to 753) - none found
1351 - JohnConduitt
1350 (AH 751) - none found
1349 - JohnConduitt
1348 (AH 749) - none found
1347 - tdziemia
1346 - JohnConduitt, Spence
1345 (AH 746) - none found
1344 - tdziemia
1343 - tdziemia, Spence
1342 (AH 743) - none found
1341 (AH 742; AH 741?) - none found
1340 (AH 740) - Spence?
1339 - tdziemia
1338 - EddieDiz, Spence, tdziemia
1337 - tdziemia
1336 (AH 736) - none found
1335 (AH 735) - none found
1334 - january1may, tdziemia
1333 - Spence
1332 (AH 732) - none found
1331 (AH 731) - none found
1330 (AH 730) - EddieDiz?
1329 - Spence, tdziemia
1328 (AH 728) - none found
1327 - Spence
1326 (AH 726) - none found
1325 - tdziemia
1324 (AH 724) - none found
1323 (AH 723) - january1may?
1322 (AH 722) - none found
1321 (AH 721) - none found
1320 - Spence; JohnConduitt (frozen date)
1319 - Spence
1318 to 1312 (AH 718 to 712) - none found
1311 - Spence
1310 (AH 710) - none found
1309 (AH 709) - none found
1308 (AH 708) - none found (though see below)
AH 707 (1308 or 1307 AD, conversions vary) - JohnConduitt


I'm probably missing more than a few recent acquisitions, especially for the 14th century; corrections welcome.

Unfortunately I can no longer add to my own collection in this range (unless I get ridiculously lucky). I hope the political situation eventually allows me to revisit my old collection, and/or start adding more 14th century coins.
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Thank you for the update! I have edited my bookmark to point to this reply instead of your previous summary. Your work is much appreciated!
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Yeah, amazing compilation and super helpful.

For the record, I am working on 1408.

...of course, asuming we will get there eventually.
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I remember the first edition being stuck on 1491. At that time I could not imagine we would ever be sitting on 1432. It is an impressive journey when you look back at the road behind us.
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1408 (AH 811) - none found


I just nabbed one (undated). FIngers crossed we get there ... but I will post it when it arrives anyhow.
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I just nabbed one (undated). FIngers crossed we get there ... but I will post it when it arrives anyhow.
Outstanding!
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