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1909 VDB, Lincoln Wheat Cent, Beautiful Toner, For Grading.

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Coin still has nice full cartwheels.
1909-VDB,-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent,-Beautiful-Toner,-For-Grading.
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 Posted 01/14/2020  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nieuw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This looks like artificial toning
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looks artificial to me too...otherwise a quite nice coin...
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In the pictures, the
multi color toning has masked the the underlying cartwheel luster, making it difficult to see. Localized light areas in the toning have also masked the ability to assess the (tiny?) amount of wear on the high points of the design - especially the obverse.

That is going to make it a bit difficult for us to grade.
A third party grader when examining this coin in hand with a 10x loupe, will be in a far better position to grade this coin than we can.
It is a pity that the potential value of this coin is unable to justify the grading and shipping fees.

The grading opinions that we come up with in this thread are likely to have wide range.

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I agree, pictures vs in hand are difficult to compare always. Sadly, even if a coin isn't artificial toned, TPG oftentimes give a coin an artificial toned details designation anyways, which doesn't make the person who paid the premium to have it graded happy when they pulled it directly from a mint cello pack, holder, etc with the toning in tow, and other coins will get a star designation because an oil smudge across Lincoln's bust from a thumb toned it nicely. It is what it is. Regardless, I liked the coin, so added it to the pile, figured I'd share.
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MS-63 details, questionable toning
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1909-VDB,-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent,-Beautiful-Toner,-For-Grading.
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PLEASE, always - FIRST post pictures of how the coin looks in hand.

If it actually looks like the second set, 63BN.
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it looks like the earlier photos BadThad, at angles the brown shows, and was trying to show the luster....was told not to post excessive photos, by you I believe lol.
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although copper can display all sorts of colors when its toning based on its environment, typically it is more smoothly distributed across the surfaces. the blotchiness and spotting may have been due to a cleaning where the solvent was not completely removed and over time resulted in this occurring. the round spots of toning on both sides seem to corroborate this. UNC details (AT or improperly cleaned)
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I believe this has been artifically toned as well.
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Thanks for the feedback guys.
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