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Question About Roosevelt Dimes Obverse Appearance

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 Posted 02/06/2020  08:33 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Davere to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hello everyone. Would someone explain to me why some dimes have a flat halo appearance around the bust of Roosevelt that sharply turns upward toward the rim making a bowl shape? ive only seen this on very few dimes. mostly on proofs. is this an attribute for proofs or just a sign that a coin may be a proof? what causes this effect? is it a design intentionally created for a certain reason by the mint, or accidental? thanks in advance for the info.
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I think it has to do with a worn die issue? WADR,read up on how coins are minted,and proof vs business strikes.
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Pics would help!



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I'm not describing it very well. I read somewheres that It's like a concave mirroring effect used on proofs to reflect light to a single point.if you can imagine roosevelt's bust removed the coin would be bowl shaped. What I'm asking about is a flattened out area in the field that circles the bust . Then turns upward to create the sides of the bowl. Most coins dont have it. It gives you the impression that that image was pressed in with greater pressure than coins without it. I'm sorry, Am I getting closer to describing it better? If not I'll try to find a picture of a proof with it Today.Its usually on 60s and 70s proof dimes.
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Here are some photos


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The areas I'm referring to are seen in the contrast of light around the bust
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Are you saying the dime in the photo is a proof dime? It is a business strike dime. In future posts please crop and rotate photos/coins properly before posting...thanks.
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Are you saying the dime in the photo is a proof dime?


Check out his other topics. He's convinced his dime is a 1975 proof, No-S.

@Davere: If it is what you think it is, let me suggest a couple of things...

1. Do not hold the coin like that. Only hold it by the rim. The oils of your hands could damage it.
2. If you're going to hold a coin, that you believe is one that sold for $456,000, wear a pair of cotton gloves. Protect the coin from further damage.
3. Send it in to PCGS or NGC for proper grading and attribution.

You can ask as many questions on here as you want, but you're only going to get opinions. I'm willing to bet all of them will be "you have a business strike"

From photos from a previous thread of yours, the coin looks harshly cleaned. If you buff up any coin like that, you'll create a mirrored surface.

http://goccf.com/t/285045
Check out that thread, things to look at to determine a Proof: the rim should be even all the way around the coin. The obverse of yours does not appear so. It appears to be heavier on one side. Additionally, as each coin is struck twice, there should be some minute doubling on letters and devices. Or at least, it should be expected.

Photos of the two known coins: https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...0c-no-s/5254

Furthermore, it should be noted that IF your coin is legitimate, it won't be worth $456,000. Right off the bat, the value of all of the coins will be reduced (theoretically), there will be three instead of two. Secondly, your coin, IF legitimate, will not be as high of a grade, and will have serious problems.

Am I saying it wouldn't be worth some money? No, not at all. I just suspect you'll be hard pressed to find a collector willing to spend those sums of money for a seriously damaged specimen. I could be wrong, but I'd place a reasonable estimate of $30.000-50.000 for it, IF it were legitimate. It would be a rather rare coin after all.

But no one would ever buy it unless it were graded and attributed by a TPG. From my reading of NGC's terms, their Guarantee doesn't cover attribution of variety (it would guarantee the coin as a Proof 1975, and would only pay out the few dollars that a standard proof is worth). From my reading of PCGS's guarantee, variety attribution is guaranteed.

My best suggestion for you: send it in. Pay for the service. Don't call them and inquire if it is what you think it is. Just knuckle down and spend the $50 (?) to have it graded with attribution (The cost is $18 added to the level of service utilized. For example, if you chose a Regular service level ($32/coin) plus variety attribution, your grading fees would come to $50.) https://www.PCGS.com/varietyfaq
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