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Romania. 100 Lei-Km 111. Edge Varieties?

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I have recently discovered a variant of Romanian 100 Lei (1992-KM-111) in my "junk coin box" which doesn´t appear in Krause. I have this coin in "A position" and "B position", but Krause doesn´t mention anything about this.

An unknown variant? , Krause error?
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 Posted 10/19/2008  05:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm, why should those two "positions" be mentioned anyway? The orientation of an edge inscription is mere coincidence, due to the production process. Of course a note could be added to any coin catalog which explains this. But it would be silly to "split" every coin that has such an inscription into two "varieties".

Until a couple of years ago I did not even know that collectors in some countries consider different orientations of an edge inscription to be different (sub-)types. Around here (Germany, Netherlands ...) we have had edge inscriptions for many years; no catalog I know of has ever made such a differentiation. When I started reading about "Type A" and "Type B" coins in 2002 (euro cash launch), I had - like most other collectors around here - no clue what that meant ...

Christian
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There are so many omissions in Krause! I wouldn't get too excited, but you might as well keep onto it and learn about the varieties if you like that sort of thing - ya' never know, eh? ;)
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Chrisild, I don´t disagree with you, but a couple of years ago I discovered that Krause mentions "Type A" and "Type B" coins in some Belgian coins.
If I am not wrong, they were 5 francs from late 30´s.
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I think there are several coins w/ edge letters in position A & B, sometime it is reported in coins catalogue sometime not.
For example "USA president 1 dollar" has these 2 positions in edge letters, but it is not reported in manuals, that doesn't mean collectors are not interested, like me, I'm collecting these coins by date, mint and edge letter position.
About Krause, it is a good, may be the best, world coin catalogue, but if you want to be accurate in a country and in coins values, you need to get a country coin catalogue, for sure.
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Ah yes, the Krause (mine is the 2004 edition) explains that in the introduction to the "Belgium" pages. Seems that is due to different collecting habits: The German (Fed. Rep.) 2 and 5 DM coins, and now the €1 and €2 coins, for example all have edge inscriptions, and the Krause catalog does not mention that either.

The latter makes sense to me - a year or mintmark is placed deliberately, so variations should be mentioned in a catalog. The edge orientation, however, is not influenced by the mint. Of course I would not criticize any collector who says, "if there are two types of edge inscription orientation, I want both."

All I am saying is that I don't think both types should be listed. On the contrary: If for some reason a coin occurs only in the "A" or only in the "B" variety, that would be worth mentioning because it would be an extremely rare exception.

Christian
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