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Bedrock of the Community
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$19. Thoughts? Thx!   |
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Pillar of the Community
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Rest in Peace
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I'll go along with MS-62 With a black eye .  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I don't see any wear. MS-62 seems right
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Bedrock of the Community
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MS-62 seems about right. Below-average eye appeal with possible obverse ED.
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Pillar of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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MS62. not sure whats going on behind the eye. could be damage
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MDS obverse, EDS reverse, typical 1913 II strike, and minimal clashing and die polishing. Nice looking rims and fields.
The surface crud isn't worrisome, but the spot on the face has two concerns. First, there may be a gouge just below the circular spot, and there is a scar just to the right of the spot. Second, the green-yellow color of the spot may suggest a chemical reaction with the copper in the alloy, which might suggest a corrosive. If this spot includes corrosion, the size and location will detail the coin. If it is only surface crud, the coin will easily straight grade. It's impossible to tell from the photos.
If the spot is just surface crud, I'm at MS-64. If the spot is deeper and shows corrosion, I'm unfortunately at UNC details.
At $19, it's a very good gamble, especially if there are return privileges. I really like the reverse on this one. Good snag!
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hard for me to grade this one from pictures....nice coin if there's no damage...I could see MS63
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Bedrock of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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when you rotate the coin can you tell whats going on around the eye?
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Interesting. I played around with your new photo a bit, and brought out some of the hidden details. I changed lighting, contrast, color, and clarity. Here's the adjusted image. (@numismatic student, Is it OK for me to post this?)  Whatever is going on around the eye extends from the hairline at the temple and cheekbone to the "R" of LIBERTY, and also seems to exist to the right and bottom of the second feather. The parallel scratches on the upper braid may suggest PMD, but I can't figure out what could have caused this. Acid? But there should be discoloration in the affected areas. Abrasion? But with what? The linear nature from the cheekbone to the "R" of LIBERTY suggests either a scratch or a lamination, but the rest doesn't fit a lamination. Another possibility might be a struck-through error, but struck through what? And why would it be found in separated places on the surface? I'm at a loss to explain this one.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I examined the coin under a 7x and 10x loupe and cannit figure out what you guys are referring to as a mark from the cheekbone to R in LIBERTY. Also cannot see the horizontal marks above the braid.  Here is another picture I took ofthe obverse. I dont know if it is any better.  |
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Just had a really interesting discussion with one of my co-workers. His guess is that it might be lapping paste residue. Lapping compound is polishing grit mixed with machine oil. The grit varies from fine silicates to emery, but ground limestone has been particularly common for a couple centuries.
The areas of your coin that are affected are all recessed on the die. It would make sense if the coining press operator polished the hammer die but failed to rag out all of the paste residue from the recessed areas before resuming striking.
This might be one to run by Mike Diamond.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks for all the continued help fortcollins!  |
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