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 Posted 02/29/2020  12:36 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ag47 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers

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 Posted 02/29/2020  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ag47 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And yeah, the Melbourne Florin is genuine, I got it checked!
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Only one guess allowed for our American friends:-
Which coin is the crown denomination?

(mine is only a '37)
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 Posted 02/29/2020  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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And yeah, the Melbourne Florin is genuine, I got it checked!


Can you throw up a Pic. of the 1934/35?,a bit hazy but the Pic. seems to show the riders left hand missing off the horse,a marker of the early fakes of this Coin before they improved.
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 Posted 03/01/2020  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ag47 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin is a bit worn on the high points, but the thumb is distinctly visible instead of the whole palm joining into the horse!

The overall strike on the king looks sharp, has toning!

Passed the magnet test, ice test and ping test.

Also I can see the lines from the king going all the way to the rim, also there's a small forking on line at the end near the rim. I would've cleaned the grime but don't want to damage in that process.

The flames also touches the nose.

I even showed this coin to my local shop, first he was bit concerned, but then confirmed it's genuine yet a poor example!
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 Posted 03/02/2020  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add squaremealroundplate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Ag47 I have serious doubts about the authenticity of the 1938 crown.

The design feature of the very center of the of the reverse - the left side edge of the cross - is out of balance with the right hand side's edge and is very/too feint and almost not there at all.

The " trumpet " like upright feature on the very left edge of the crown's design should look exactly like what the right hand's side looks like. The left hand side's " trumpet " feature is missing except for the very top of the " trumpet ", and it's not level in height with the right hand " trumpet " like feature, as it should be.

I should know all the right terminology of the design sections after so many years, so I hope the above description can be relatively easy to follow. I don't think the 1938 crown is " kosher ".


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 Posted 03/02/2020  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My initial thoughts was its dicey,the left hand isn't as bad as the early fakes but later ones improved it,The left shoe is detailed,good,which it is often not the case on many fakes.
The quality of the modern fakes/replica's(beware of 1938 Crowns,the latest ones have the weight correct) appearing on the market are astonishing,i'll leave it to the experts to express an opinion on this Coin.
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 Posted 03/02/2020  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add squaremealroundplate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

The 1934/35 Melb Centenary is an oddity. The horse's legs appear to be clear and ok.

The rider's head and chest, the horse's head, neck and shoulder area are all flattened.

As I understand it, under normal circumstances of wear and tear of these coins, it's the rider's right foot which flattens, especially the toes and the lower part of the rider's right foot, almost disappearing. So why is it that this 1934/35 MF has the very unsual inconsistancy with how the rider's right leg, especially the lower leg area, isn't affected in any way like the flttened rider, and head part of the horse, with what can reasonably be expected from normal wear and tear ? The rider's leg and foot is almost equally amongst the highest points of the reverse.

Hmm, if in doubt.......I'll let this one pass through to the keeper.





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 Posted 03/03/2020  04:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think they are all OK.
Most fake 1938 crowns have a "die marker" which is an indentation in the bottom of the crown above the 8 in the date.
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 Posted 03/03/2020  06:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Comparative ping tone test can often prove to be helpful.
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