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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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  it weighs 6.78 grams and is about 20-22 mm wide. Possibly too much encrustation to give a positive ID.
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Size is about right for this, but I'm not sure the design details are exactly the same. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces24099.htmlNumista shows a lot of irregularly shaped coins for this reign, including the one in the link, but yours looks almost too regular (octagonal). I am guessing someone with a SPain catalog will come along and nail it down. Edit: Another example, so this is obviously a "typical" shape. https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotv...e45d6e0ef7baAnd I think the VIII right of the shield is visible on the first photo. But you seem to have a castle there , unlike these two. DIfferent mint? Edited by tdziemia
02/29/2020 1:41 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I see a VIII on the first picture and it appears to be a 1614 in the second (more obvious in hand), although 1614 is not listed for the cob type 8 Maravedis.
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Woow oriole, that one is difficult. I would say VIII maravedís from Felipe III. Mintmark looks like squared, maybe Segovia (Casa Vieja) mint. And if you are seeing 1614 on date, ¿could it be 1604 instead? That year has some dies with a bigger 4, and your coin looks like a really big number 4. On the other hand, mint is Segovia (Casa vieja), that is not the famous Segovian Royal Mint, which used roller dies. My guess is for reference D273 on the image.  Regards! |
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Thanks, @txabs, It seems to be a match for D-273. Yes it could be 1604. There are none dated 1614? The date is hidden under a crust of hard packed soil so I suppose the 0 could be disguised as a 1 depending on the wear. It would be nice to see what the numbers look like on some other coins.
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Nop, no chance of 1614. I've found no coins of this year an d I've looked on all mints.
The other possibility is 1624 under Felipe IV. I'm pretty sure last digit is a '4'.
What do you see on mintmark? The left side of the castle?
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Pillar of the Community
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The mint mark is three horizontal lines, from what I can see.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Looking at the picture in Numista, the style of the 2 for the Felipe IV in 1624 seems a pretty good match. What seems to be a plausible mint according to your book?
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I've been looking for it with calm. And I've changed my mind. Normally, those coppers are easy to find according to the art of the figures engraved, but yours is not easy because of the encrustations. And because I have the catalogue, but they are not my field of knowledge, I'm collecting different copper series. According to the "horn" the lion has on his left knee, and the little round on the top-left side of the lion's shield, if you are seeing 1624 on date... I would bet for Valladolid mint, like those ones: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5849689https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2061108The form of the castle matches, the form of the lion also matches, the three horizontal marks you are seeing on the mint mark could be four instead, and the number '4', the only one I can see in the photo, also matches. What do you think? (Sorry for my poor english, but I guess it is enough to understand me) |
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Your English is fine.
The 4 horizontal lines appear higher on your illustrations. So I am not so sure. Possibly all the "lines" on my specimen are not really lines. one might be a dot.
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