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1858 Flying Eagle Cent - Counterfeit With Major Doubled Die

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 Posted 03/06/2020  10:10 pm Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I guess if you're going to go, go big. Not happy with producing a passable 1858 cent, this one was made with a whopper of a doubled die on the date. Fun one!

1858 Flying Eagle cent - counterfeit w/DDO 4.59g


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 Posted 03/06/2020  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Incredible, thanks for that.
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 Posted 03/06/2020  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even though it's fake, I love the Doubled Die on the date!
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 Posted 03/06/2020  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Neat fake.

Hate to be a poindexter, but isn't it a RPD not a Doubled Die?
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 Posted 03/06/2020  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well now, isn't that a jolly good question! Certainly on a real cent it would be a RPD, but since this isn't real then it could be that they were faking an impossible doubled die. That really looks DDO not RPD.
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 Posted 03/09/2020  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ZenFE99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is actually a pretty typical fake. The missing detail on the leaf on the back has been around for years.

Edit - someone just posted this same coin a few weeks ago on here. It seems more common to find the 1857 version of this fake though.
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 Posted 03/09/2020  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A date so nice that they faked it twice! Interesting!
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 Posted 03/11/2020  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wish those counterfeiters would make a 1856 one of those. I need one for my Album.
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 Posted 03/12/2020  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My 1856 counterfeit is good enough that someone decided to get its metal content done up.

Should be: 88% copper, 12% nickel
Actual coin: 68.38% copper, 0.15% nickel, 31.23% zinc, 0.23% lead



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 Posted 07/25/2020  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 20dollarbill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm really curious as to why you (Tropicalbats) feel the Flying Eagle you posted is counterfeit? I've only been into the Error side of coins for a few years, so don't beat me up to bad,
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 Posted 07/25/2020  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A serious collector of FE cents will recognize this as counterfeit on one look. The date logo is comical. With respect, Google "1856 Flying Eagle cent Images".



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I'm really curious as to why you (Tropicalbats) feel the Flying Eagle you posted is counterfeit?

Which one do you mean, he has posted two different ones. (but as Coinfrog says the 1856 is easy to spot because the date is so bad. The 1858 is better but the date font still isn't right.
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 Posted 07/31/2020  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow very interesting! Thanks for sharing Bats!
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The "Chinese chip" is a really good indicator...


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A serious collector of FE cents will recognize this as counterfeit on one look.

Not even a serious collector. Me, one with only a few VF Flying Eagle cents, can recognize this fake at first glance.

All it takes is repetitive expose to the type so you understand what a genuine coin looks like.
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