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A word of caution to those who might be chasing a registry set contender with this no reserve auction - this is the same coin that was pulled from the Geoffrey Bell Auctions Fall 2018 Coin Expo auction (cert. number matches)... and the same coin that Rob Turner and I wrote about in the November 2018 CN Journal. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1891-CANAD...223950723665Also similar to the same coin originally discussed here: http://goccf.com/t/271041PCGS and NGC are aware of this coin, not sure if any others have been subsequently certified by ICCS. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
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I couldn't open the ebay link, but I remember the coin from 2018. Who was trying to resell it? |
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Scary.
I wonder how many of these kinds of fakes are out there.
What if TCH had never decided to submit one to PCGS?
Had the obverse been correct might they have passed undetected?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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It looks like a coin I bid on myself when it was initially on ebay from a Spanish seller. I did buy the 1888 from the same sale. A spectacular piece. Full red and blazing lustre. Long ago and far away. And likely you know... |
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Did anyone contact the seller? Who was the seller?
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Did anyone contact the seller? Who was the seller? No, and ebay yanked the listing before I could go back and see. Seller from Ontario, that's all I have. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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What if TCH had never decided to submit one to PCGS? The 1914 10-cent, with the Edward VII obverse, from the same seller is what tipped off the TCH that something was amiss - then, TCH posting here and Rob Turner's expertise on the 1891 dies is what was the clincher. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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I'd be grateful if someone could tell me what the tip off is that this is not legit.
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Pillar of the Community
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Please check SPP comments above. Obverse is not correct.
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Pillar of the Community
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ah - right - the serifs.... wow. That is not the sort of knowledge I typically carry around in my head. Moral of the story is go deep on the details I guess....
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If buying MS Vicky coins it is imperative you know the differences in the obv. This is Counterfeit Detection at its finest. |
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Could someone explain the "Spanish" angle on this? Who is the dealer in question? And is the implication that the dealer knew this coin was fake or was s/he just fooled by it like everyone else (well, almost everyone else).
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Go back to the link in the first post of this thread. It shows the lengthy discussion that took place over 3 years ago. It will clarify the "Spanish".
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@okiecoiner
Thx - that is a fascinating (and somewhat depressing) read. Though knowledge is power right? This adds a few things to look for when buying. One of the things I find most exciting about this activity is sleuthing out what I want to buy and what I don't. What's priced fairly and what's not. It's all about organizing information and weighing it against what you actual like and want. So... onward. I will keep my eyes peeled for that tiny crescent shaped ding....
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