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1909 VDB Wheat Cent. Is The Coin Considered A Variety?

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 Posted 03/30/2020  11:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Curveball to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Got this one off a roll I purchased I know the VDB s 1909 is crh dream to find never came across one found this one a while back from a few rolls I purchased of wheaties
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03/30/2020 11:04 pm
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 Posted 03/30/2020  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe it's considered a reverse design variety (as opposed to a die variety like a DDO / DDR/RPM). That said, it's not a particularly scarce reverse variety for the Philly mint, with about 27 million produced. It's a few bucks and sells for more than a lot of lower-mintage wheat cents due to its popularity, but not a strike-it-rich coin by a long shot. The 1909-S VDB is the real gem, and those start at a few hundred bucks and go up to well over a thousand for examples in really great condition. Still an excellent find for something you got coin roll hunting though!
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 Posted 03/30/2020  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like the normal V.D.B. The varieties are easy to spot when you know what to look for:
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On the zero on the date, note the enlargement of that digit at 4:00 how it is not rounded on the DDO-002? Forget looking for the chips in Liberty, look at the Zero on the date. There is a fake non DDO for that year/VDB that is not the DDO. Just a pretender. Even PCGS missed that when the slabbed the fake.
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Here is what they missed:
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Note the Zero on the lower image. That is what to look for on these.
The die chips are different:
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Go by the actual hub doubling, and forget looking for the markers on these. (Someone is holding a coin they think it the DDO, but it is not. And graded as the real deal. But it is not! Buy the coin, not the plastic.
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03/30/2020 11:52 pm
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 Posted 03/30/2020  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Curveball to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know it's not a DDO I was just asking if the VDB made it a variety since not all 1909 cents had his initials and it's a specific die does that make it a variety not a error just a variety.
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 Posted 03/30/2020  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would call it a year variety. But not a die variety. The difference? A die variety means it is only on one die. On a year variety there are several dies showing this, but not confined to one die.
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 Posted 03/31/2020  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find, congrats!
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Yes an excellent CRH'ing find . And in pretty good condition to boot for a 111 year old coin .
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Great find!
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 Posted 04/01/2020  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say no, it is not a variety, it's simply a normal US coin.
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I would call the 1909 VDB and the 09 SVDB a one year type coin. It was the authorized design, and then a design change was authorized that same year. To me an authorized change in design indicates a change in type.
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I refer to them as a "Year Variety". (because there were with/without the V.D.B.) Why do I add the Dots? The dots were there until 1935 on the VDB on the bust.
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Where did you read that? I didn't. I figured it out myself.
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