Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall 300,000 items to help build your collection! Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Specializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin Auctions








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Why? - Byzantine Cup-Shaped "Coins"?

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 3 / Views: 2,042Next Topic  
Valued Member
Curio Bill's Avatar
United States
52 Posts
 Posted 10/31/2008  11:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Curio Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
WHY? - Why did the Byzantines make cup-shaped "coins"?

I just purchased Mr. Sayles' Byzantine Coin book & even HE doesn't know why they did it! Any quasi-reasonable wild guesses?

Thanks, Bill.
Pillar of the Community
Sir Ferrari's Avatar
United States
671 Posts
 Posted 10/31/2008  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sir Ferrari to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The best reason I have heard is that it was easier for the merchants of the time to stack the coins when counting up their profits...

I'm pretty sure this kind of coin started under Andronicus II, if I can recall correctly.
Edited by Sir Ferrari
10/31/2008 11:46 pm
Moderator
Learn More...
Sap's Avatar
Australia
16837 Posts
 Posted 11/01/2008  02:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coins in question were cup-shaped because the dies used to strike them were cup-shaped.

So, Why were the dies cup-shaped? That we don't know.

I suspect it may have originally had more to do with whatever techniques they were using to make the dies, rather than a deliberate attempt to make scyphate coinage. Once these accidental scyphate coins were issued, people realised that such coins had certain benefits over traditional flat ones (eg stacking easier) and so the practice became established.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
Pillar of the Community
NumisMattyUk's Avatar
United Kingdom
2217 Posts
 Posted 11/08/2008  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What I'm wondering is, would they stack beter unless they were very regular in shape? If they weren't all exactly the same shape the stack would fall over? Then again, compared to other coins of the time, it should be somewhat easier...
Edited by NumisMattyUk
11/08/2008 7:36 pm
  Previous TopicReplies: 3 / Views: 2,042Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.2 seconds to rattle this change. Forums