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Thaler Perhaps ? 1639 Nova Moneta. Is It Genuine Even ? (Id: Zuerich Batzen)

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 Posted 04/11/2020  05:09 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JBL to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am very sceptical about this 'coin'. It looks like it should be easy to identify, dated 1639, legend 'NOVA MONETA' and ?HVRIGENSIS'. Austrian/Russian style double headed eagle and a clear shield.
I searched and cannot find it.
So.... is it a real coin or a funny mix copy, a tourist trap item ?
Any ideas appreciated.
Weight 2.0g. Diameter 24mm metal is silver -like, not copper or bronze.
Thanks
Brian.
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 Posted 04/11/2020  05:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@JBL, that is a nice billon coin that you have there. From the shield on your second pic, this looks like it came from the Swiss canton of Zürich. Also, the weight and diameter seem more consistent with a Batzen denomination (as opposed to a Thaler). I don't have too many Thalers in my collection, but those guys are more like hockey pucks than coins. Assuming that the inscription on the front is THVRICENSIS, here is a link to the numista page:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces89213.html
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 Posted 04/11/2020  06:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JBL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many thanks Spence, that is a nice surprise.
Looks like I need a better set of glasses
Cheers
Brian.
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Nice coin! When we search, it's easy to forget how widespread that Hapsburg eagle was in central Europe in the 1600s. Switzerland, parts of northern Italy, Silesia, etc ...
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