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Canada 1858 5 Cents - Is This A Large Date?

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 Posted 04/12/2020  9:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add colpoy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is my first post to this forum. I'm hoping you guys can help me verify if I have one small date 1858 5 cent coin and one large date of the same year. I think so, but I'm not certain. I've attached images of each of the two coins as well as cropped images of just the dates.

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Thanks Dorado. I've already reviewed the Coins Canada site and other sites. They are helpful. Based on them, I think I have one small date and one large date, but I'm looking for confirmation from folks on here since I've been staring at the two coins for far too long at this point.

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What I do to measure stuff like this is cut and paste some known examples into powerpoint, paste the unknown next to them and draw some lines that align with the long and short version (or high and low or whatever). Usually taking the line from a known to the unknown clarifies immediately.
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 Posted 04/13/2020  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like to me that the 2nd one is small date. I don't think that you can go by which letters look "fatter" or thicker, since the top (1st) coin is much more worn, which will naturally make them look large since the dies are tapered, making the design appear large as it wears down. I went mostly by the 5-8 gaps and by drawing vertical lines up and down on either side of the digits and see where they intercected the rest of the design. That's my opinion only and not necessarily a fact.
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Thanks okiecoiner. I thought the bottom was small date as well.

Would you consider the top one to be large date? When I overlay them, the digits do look to be wider relative to the small date one.
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Yes, one large, one small. If you can place another 5 between the 5 and either 8, it's small date. The back of the large date 5 is straight up-and-down, the small date 5 slants slightly to the right. The upper and lower sections of the large date 8 are much more ovoid than the small date 8 (which are nearly round).
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Thanks TerryT. That's what I thought. Appreciate you taking the time to reply!
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