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1944-S US - Philippine Possible Error Coin

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 Posted 04/17/2020  7:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Piersol to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, I found a 1944 s copper coin with the same image obverse and reverse no denomination. Marked United States of America around inside of rim with eagle over shield in center. Found with a group of US Philippine coins possibly brought to Philippines by MacArthur on US return to PI. Curious if this coin is an error coin or some other explanation why it has the same image or both sides with no denomination?
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You have shown us identical images of the obverse of this coin. Please show us the reverse.



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@Piersol, first welcome to CCF. Second, in addition to a pic of the other side of this piece, can you please also add a pic of the edge? As it is curved, it will be hard to get too much in focus, but that is ok. Thx.
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This is 2 pictures one of the obverse and one of the reverse. I know it looks the same, that is the point, is this an error coin?
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Here is picture side view.
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Ok thx for the additional pics. It looks like we have both sides now. Sometimes we see so-called Magician's coins, where someone has sliced two coins in half and then stuck them together, but I don't see a seam on yours. What is the weight of this piece?

Also, I'm going to move this thread to a more appropriate subforum so that we can get some additional eyes on it.
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It cannot be a "mint error". While genuine double-headed and double-tailed coins are known, they are extremely scarce and not technically "errors" - they were deliberately made by people working off-production using a press specifically set up to make double-tailed coins. The obverse and reverse dies used to make coins have differently-shaped attachments for installing into a press; putting a "tails" die into the "heads" position of a press would be like putting a square peg in a round hole. It just doesn't fit.

Rather, your coin is most likely a "trick coin", made by taking two perfectly normal coins. One coin is ground down on one side so that it's wafer-thin. The second coin is hollowed out on a lathe to form a shallow "bowl" or "dish", into which the thinned-down second coin is pushed. The "seam" between the two half-coins is thus inside the rim on one side of the coin - probably the side shown in pics 1, 2 and 4 above.
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Thank you. I checked the side under magnification and there does look like a seam around.
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