Denarius Charlemagne/ 781-802 Ad What Is The Value Of This Coin?

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Archeo1982 Pillar of the Community Netherlands 521 Posts	Posted 04/29/2020 4:16 pm Medieval denarius Grade? It has a fine water tone, but I'm not sure how to grade these coins on market value.. Obv: +CARLVS REX FR with central cross. rev: Charlemagne monogram and legend: PAPIA+ Material: silver D(mm): 19 mass (gr): 1,27 gr. Edited by Archeo1982 04/29/2020 6:38 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Pertinax Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2135 Posts	Posted 04/29/2020 5:02 pm of the other side, please ? Report this Post to the Staff
erafjel Pillar of the Community Sweden 2124 Posts	Posted 04/30/2020 2:46 pm Nice coin, although the weight (1.27 g) is low. Nominal weight for this type of denier is 1.70 g, although the average weight is around 1.55 g. Examples below 1.35 g are rare but not non-existent. I don't see anything else with the coin that raises concerns, maybe the weight is just a little to the low end. I guess a value for this coin, considering that it is a bit worn but the legends still fully readable, would be around 1500-2000 €. Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7959 Posts	Posted 04/30/2020 3:29 pm I would guess somewhere in the VF+ range. I agree with @erafjel. A sharp EF specimen sold at CNG recently for $3500 (and is nw for sale on V Coins for $7,000!), and an MS61 example sold at Heritage last year for $3360. Lovely coin, very sought after ruler. If it is already yours, lucky you! Edited by tdziemia 04/30/2020 3:45 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Archeo1982 Pillar of the Community Netherlands 521 Posts	Posted 05/01/2020 08:32 am I don't have a photo of this coin before it went to a restoration specialist, but it looked somewhat like another coin I found. Like the photo below.Maybe thats one of the weightloss reasons. Edited by Archeo1982 05/01/2020 08:33 am Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7959 Posts	Posted 05/01/2020 11:13 am I don't think so. The Charlemagne coin you are showing has strong design details that do not suggest to me weight lost due to corrosion. I think the two possibilities are an underweight flan (planchet) or not authentic, but as mentioned by @erafjel, evidence of forgery is not obvious, but I am not an expert on these types. I wonder if this would be a situation to consider submitting it to NGC? Edited by tdziemia 05/01/2020 12:18 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Archeo1982 Pillar of the Community Netherlands 521 Posts	Posted 05/01/2020 6:54 pm If it is a forgery it's still medieval. It was a metal detecting find from a carolingian layer Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7959 Posts	Posted 05/04/2020 8:37 pm My thought about submitting it was two reasons: 1. authentication 2. in the lucky event that it gets an XF grade, you have a $3,000 coin, and it is well worth the cost of submission Report this Post to the Staff
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