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Hello
Does anyone know how to identify this coin?
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I received some information that this coin may be an Indo-Shytian imitation of a Bactrian coin, Eucratides I,The Great.
What do you think of that?
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Indo-Shytian imitation of a Bactrian coin, Eucratides I


Seems highly unlikely to me.

I think I may see evidence of an ivy wreath adorning the obverse head. That would suggest Dionysos - and, if correct, it would rule out a Eucratides imitation.
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@Bob L I also found it very doubtful to be Indo-Shytian.
If it is Dionysus, do you believe it is which coin? It might look like a nymph head to me.
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Would anyone know how to help?
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Hello friends, I received the hypothesis that it may be Nabatean.
The left side is very close. There is a bust with a rim. Compare:
https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=229433
https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=119440
What is your opinion?
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The reverse of your coin would have to be a double cornucopia to match the one at the first link. While I cannot make out the imagery on your coin, I see no way it fits the double cornucopia motif. Do you?

The Aretas IV token in the second link is made of lead. It is not a match for a bronze coin.
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Dear Bob L. This hypothesis is that the bust inside the rim would indicate to be Nabataean. But it's not the ones in the link, and I don't see the double cornucopia.
In your opinion what coin would it be?
Weight, g: 1.9
Size, mm: 12.2x12
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If the reverse were clearer, I suspect we could ID it - assuming it's been published. But there's a possibility that it is unpublished.
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It's funny how your eyes play tricks when you stare at an object long enough. My eyes aren't the best, what I see looks like an Eagle or Griffin facing left.
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Could be looking at the reverse inverted ?
I believe it can be any of these:
https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=14068
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Those are all made of lead. Is yours bronze or lead?
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Is there a method for differentiating bronze or lead? With the patina I can't differentiate
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If it's: Dionysus on the right / Centaur (Chiron) standing left.
Would you know how to say any currency that fits?
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