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1931-D Lincoln Mistake?.

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 Posted 11/05/2008  6:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add acidic1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Oh boy!. I think I may have over paid for this coin.

I paid $55.00. How much did I over pay?.

Thanks,

A.



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 Posted 11/05/2008  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You did ok (maybe $10 to high), 31-D is a tough one to find in nice condition. Check out ebay completed listings to see how you compare.
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 Posted 11/05/2008  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acidic1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks chrsb, that makes me feel a bit better!.
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 Posted 11/05/2008  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I certainly don't want to make your esophagus an acidic one but $55 seems high to me.

It also depends on what you feel the grade is in hand. The reverse looks AU but the obverse EF. I'd say $30 would have been about right for this coin raw.

I've overpaid for a lot of Lincolns this year too, but a '31-D has to be AU to approach $50.
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 Posted 11/05/2008  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OUCH! Sorry, IMO you WAY over-paid. That's a VF30-EF40 coin at best. CDN lists the price range at $6.50-11.00 ask.

To give you an idea. I bought this one about 8-9 months ago for $60, mind you I got a great deal on it...but...:

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 Posted 11/05/2008  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acidic1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice!...acidic!...I was thinking 31s when I bought it. I never would have paid $55.00 for a 31 D mint. Personally, I think I could have got a nicer one for $15 to $20...I got burned, simple as that. I gotta get a Tums.
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 Posted 11/05/2008  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acidic1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Next time I'll consult an expert...or a BOOK!!.
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 Posted 11/05/2008  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was trying to be nice, some of you guys are ruthless. It is about a $20 max coin, but as long as the buyer is happy with it then it does not matter what he paid. You learn as you go with this hobby. If you do your DD before buying a coin (ie:check completed listing on ebay, graysheet, heritage etc..) you become a more educated buyer. I have a whole box filled with beginner buys from ebay, I keep most of them to remind me of how far I have come along. Acidic- next time you are looking for a cent try the "want to buy" forum here. Some of us (I know I do) have multiples of many Lincolns. I do stand by my previous statement that a 31-D is hard to find, be it in BU condition. I know I looked months to find one for my collection. I think I got one for Thad also, maybe it was a 30-D.

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 Posted 11/05/2008  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acidic1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I bought the coin, I knew one of the 31's was a semi-key but I didn't know which one...I took a chance and came up craps. One of the few coins I bought at a coin shop. While buying on e-bay, you have the books on hand.

Note to self...carry your books with you always!.
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 Posted 11/05/2008  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sir Ferrari to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Everyone makes mistakes. It just means you'll do better next time.
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 Posted 11/06/2008  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
acidic:
Can you go back to the seller, and discuss it with him/her?
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 Posted 11/06/2008  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acidic1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, but I won't. I'm thinking of gluing it somewhere where I'll have to look at it every day. A physical reminder to be aware that there are people out there that are willing to take you if you let them.
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 Posted 11/06/2008  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clembo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So you paid too much. Live and learn. Not the seller's fault.

Positive (IMHO) is I've thought that particular date has been under rated for years.

Treashunt: It's on the clembo "sleeper list".
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 Posted 11/06/2008  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acidic1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
clembo, I know you work at a coin shop. Honestly, would you even list this coin at $55.00. There is no doubt in my military mind that he knew that coin was way, WAY over priced. It was presented in such a way as to be believed it was a semi-key. If I had my book with me I would have seen that the key was the S mint. I don't say its blame I put on the dealer, but shame. He really did himself a dis-service though. I spend a lot of money on coins and now he has lost my business and the business of everyone I talk to about him (if I choose too, right now I don't choose too). Still, when all is said and done, its MY fault for not doing my due diligence. That doesn't mean I not above going over there and, maybe take up some of his time asking stupid questions and generally being a pain in his back side for a while. "You shouldn't sell the new Pres. dollars 'cause In God we trust is not on there." (I know its on the edge). I'll have to think of some more annoying questions.

What questions about coins really annoy you?. C'mon, I need some ammo.

A.
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 Posted 11/06/2008  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Don't beat yourself or the dealer up over this. The $55.00 asking price was high, but open to offers I'm sure. Looking at the coin again, I'd go EF40 money for sure. That still puts it at $25 though.

Want to feel better? I bought a raw '09-S last year for $225. It was advertised EF/AU so the price looked good. After further review (me stewing over a loupe for a week) I concluded it was a cleaned VF/EF worth maybe $150. I learned from it and the coin got a lot of freash summer weather this year and the cleaning isn't so noticeably but I'll likely never get $200 out of it if I want to sell.

Moral to the story - Skip the crazy glue and start cheap, learn to grade, and carry a Greysheet!

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 Posted 11/08/2008  05:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Clembo:
Thanks for the note, I'll add it to the list.
acidic1:
Don't beat yourself up over it.
You met a dealer tht you know you should never speak to again.
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