2 Rolls Of Sacagewa 2000 P, Please Help

Oh yes, I remember cherrios doing this back in 2000. I still have 2 pennies that I saved coming from the box. Wasn't lucky enough to receive one of the Sac dollars. But I also think there was a pattern coin of the Sacs put in the boxes that maybe was only 1 to 2% of the total number in the cherrios, (5500) I believe. Those coins go for big bucks. Most likely many people cracked them out and spent them. I think there is a diagnostic mark under the P of the date on those coins. But I think grading companies have to have the non-variety cherrios coins in the original packaging to designate them, as there indistinguishable from normal Sac dollars. But, I still think in your rolls it would be worth looking for errors and I think there's a variaty that could potentially fetch a premium and maybe put some of the best examples aside.

I've discussed this more than a few times over the years with various people. Cheerios got 5500 2000P sac dollars to give away from the mint that they put in the cereal boxes.

What we know is that not every dollar coin found in the cereal boxes is the rare pattern piece with high details. What we don't know is if the mint struck 5500 of them with the same die pair and they got mixed up or if they struck less and made up the rest with regular dies.

If they did strike 5500 for cheerios using that die pair and some were not the high detail pattern piece reverse then it stands to reason some got out in circulation and mixed in with all the others and sent to banks. They got mixed up.

Unless you got it from a cheerios box and submit it for grading in the package, it's not a cheerios dollar. However it is the pattern reverse still.

My theory is its the reverse for the 24K gold coins they struck and sent to space on the space shuttle that is now in ft. Knox and they send to coin shows for display but I haven't confirmed that as I've never seen those 24K gold pieces on display.

Highly unlikely you have even 1 of these in your rolls much less more than one, as it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack in all the other 200P sacs that were minted. Unlikely, but I think possible though.

All sac dollars dated 2000P look the same. There are slight differences to tell the pattern pieces and you need to pay attention to detail when identifying because that is the difference, the details.

I'd really like to get a up close and personal look at the 24K gold pieces that were struck to see if my theory is correct and that is where the reverse came from. Also I've always wondered if there is a high detail obverse die that was used on some, but the reverse would need to be correct then see if there is a more detailed obverse also.

I'd think if there is a high detailed reverse out there there may be a high detailed obverse out there nobody has found with the normal reverse to it.
I mean it took 5 years for someone to figure out there was a difference with the cheerios dollar reverses. Possible a high detail obverse may also exist as the 2nd part of that die pair... who knows they made 767 million of them. It's a lot to look through for a couple thousand of something tops.

Interesting theory Big-Kingdom. Fenton, the ones that are the premium were the 1 to 2% of the 5500 put in the boxes. But like Big-Kingdom said, they were found out about some 5 years later so many most likely just took it out of the package and spend it. They were "pattern" coins struck with a different higher detailed reverse than the regular ones. Those go for thousands, I think maybe close to 10,000.
But HA, no Fenton- you dont send the whole box of cherrios in. In the box comes a little 2 by 2 plastic wrap of the coin you send in, lol.

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That's pretty cool Yokozuna, you were lucky enough to find that in the box? Or did you buy it not graded? I did mention the die mark under the P in one of my posts. I wasn't sure if I remembered it correctly.

Looks like we got it right about the origin of the reverse die. Here's a high res link to the 2000-W space dollar's reverse. Look familiar?

https://i.PCGS.com/s3/cu-PCGS/Pages...05r600px.jpg

I did an outside link to preserve image quality.

Edit:

SmallDollars article on this very topic,

http://www.smalldollars.com/dollar/page20b.html

yeah, ok. makes sense that they would not use the obverse die and it would have caught their attention at Philly and been sidelined with the W being on it. Easy enough for them to catch and remove it from the workings dies. So there likely isn't a high detailed obverse out there UNLESS, one turns up with a W on it instead of a P. or maybe repunched, but I doubt that.

Anywho. I been speculating about the space coins being the origin of the detailed reverse a really long time since the detailed reverse first appeared, nice to finally see one. I could never find a good picture of them.

As far as OP, Taylork90, a 2000P Sacagawea dollar "wounded Eagle" FS-901 could turn up in the rolls, if you want to know what to look for, looking up Sacagawea "wounded Eagle" or Sacagawea FS-901 will work and check images, there's a line running through the body of the eagle on the reverse, looks like an arrow sort of. its a long shot but maybe.


Thanks guys, nice talk!