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1994 LMC Bifacial Misalignment?

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The obverse caught me off guard, so I flipped the coin to its reverse and I can't tell if this would qualify as the reverse also having a MAD. It's very slight, but it's there.


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Possibly, but doubt it would add any value since neither is significant enough to push the fields or any design elements over the border. Looks like an okay die crack just east of 12 o'clock on the reverse too.
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Thanks Sam, was thinking the same thing.

I'll save it in a 2x2 for the time being.
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the proper term for this is MAD. (Mis-Aligned-Dies) These are common, but look for the ones where the devices fall ofver the edge of the coin:
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Those are the ones to save. These are a misalignment of the hammer die. The anvil die is not adjustable. Just the hammer die. When it is not in correct alignment, then we have coins like this OP's coin.
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 Posted 06/07/2020  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Coop.

The reason why I called this a Bifacial Misalignment was because it looked like BOTH sides, the obverse and reverse were MADs.
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Dual or bifacial misalignments do exist, but this is not one of them. The position of each face is within acceptable limits as far as I'm concerned. Major bifacial misalignments require the coin to be broadstruck or accompanied by a broken collar. Here's one of several examples that I own:
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1994-LMC-Bifacial-Misalignment?
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Oh I understand, makes sense, the devices on both sides must suffer some severity of being effected for it to be considered a dual/bifacial misalignment.

Thank you very much for your input and information Mr. Diamond, beautiful coin by the way.
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Coop, you've mixed up two of my comments in the post that features the side-by-side images of the South Carolina quarter. Part of the comment refers to the OP's cent while other parts refer to dual misalignments in general. The result is confusion.
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Here's dual misalignment in a 1966 nickel that was struck in-collar. The misalignment on the reverse face (struck by the anvil die) is about as large as one could expect given the tight fit between anvil die neck and collar. The obverse misalignment is also minor, although that's not due to any physical constraint. Again, an anvil die misalignment can only exceed the degree of lateral displacement seen here when the collar breaks apart or breaks free of its moorings.
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Thank you for that information Mr. Diamond, that certainly clears up any confusion for me.
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Mike: I notice on the reverse of the nickel some grease blockage on some of the devices.('States of AMERICA and CENTS) Could this have affected the misplacement issue, or not related?
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Grease has affected the first two letters of CENTS but I don't see it anywhere else. Slight fading at the outer tips of AMERICA is probably due to die convexity. In any case, the presence of grease on the die would have no connection to the misalignment.
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