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1983 P Lincoln Cent: Grading (Die Cracks?)

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This one is kinda interesting to me at least. The obverse has a tone change from right to left (red-brown to brown) and the the reverse is red-brown (I think?). The reverse also appears to have die cracks running into the bottom corners of the memorial.

Any grade guesses would be appreciated.

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 Posted 06/11/2020  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeLoss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's pretty common . Hold onto it and it might be valuable in 30 years . Not worth grading .
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 Posted 06/11/2020  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool looking coin, I would have save it too.

AU-58
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 Posted 06/11/2020  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin, nice pics! Very nice die cracks! AU55 for me. Very 2x2 worthy.
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 Posted 06/11/2020  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nope to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone!

A follow up question.

Now I definitely believe you guys about the mid to high AU grade, but I need to understand this better. I am very new to this and my eye is not as trained.

When I look at PCGS' website and they show this 1983 BN MS63 - to me it appears just as good or worse than mine ( I mean, besides the cracks, if that even effects the grade). What exactly should I be looking for, or in other words, what brings my down to at best AU-58 compared to this one:

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This one's a slider that could be AU-58 or MS-63. Depends on what the grader had for lunch that day. Nice die cracks and a very attractive coin.
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I'll say AU-58, but it could be lower MS RB.
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AU-58, but still could be lower MS RB.

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Thanks again everyone!

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Signs of circulation. AU-58.
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There are obvious signs of wear. For a Memorial cent the key places to look in order:

1) Reverse - the cornice on the building. It's the highest spot and wears quickly.
2) The short pillars at the base of the steps on both sides.
3) The hair above the ear and the side of the forehead.
4) The jacket lapel.

Other signs: Loss of full, cartwheel luster. Dings on the reverse columns and steps. Field stains and hits. Rims show rub and hits.
5) The cheek and jaw.
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 Posted 06/18/2020  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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When I look at PCGS' website and they show this 1983 BN MS63


It doesn't mean they're right! I've seen plenty of AU memorial cents in MS slabs in my life. PCGS is very forgiving when the coin has good eye appeal.

This is a valuble lesson for new collectors - so I'm taking some time here. I want everyone to compare, mainly the reverse, of my true MS coin. Look closely at the memorial building and compare the PCGS coin to mine. My coin is how it's supposed to look, not all rubbed down and beat up. That only happened with this issue if it was caused by wear. It is extremely obvious when you look at them side by side.


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