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Pillar of the Community
United States
3433 Posts |
Well it passed the acetone test The fracture looks genuine (inside and out) The weight is spot compared to the others I found online But I am unsure ...... I checked a reliable fake report and it came up clean But the source was a certain seller I am now in discussions with about a certain tetrarchy follis Soooooooo Well it appears to me to be ....... Æ Sestertius Emperor Septimius Severus Obv. L SEPT SEVERVS PIVS AVG Laureate bare bust right Rv. PM TR P XVIII COS III P P Three figures sacrificing on lighted altar Septimius Severus facing Geta and Caracalla on either side face to face S C in exergue 23.20 grams 31-2mm RIC 798 Sear 6432   Now I am going to go hold my breath for an hour Or two ! It didn't come dirt cheap But the price was shall we say ..... pandemic ! (auction back in mid-March) |
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New Member
United States
44 Posts |
I think I see some casting bubbles which would hint at a fake, but I would wait for some more expert opinions before reaching a conclusion.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3433 Posts |
It's not a casting
That I am 99% sure about
Buts thanks for voicing an opinion !
Edited by FVRIVS RVFVS
06/13/2020 8:48 pm
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Moderator
 United States
23731 Posts |
Your the expert on bronze coinage so I defer to your knowledge. IMO it appears genuine to me.
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New Member
United States
44 Posts |
You're definitely the expert here! That I am 100% sure about :P
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7066 Posts |
So pretty...
Another beautiful big bronze...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3433 Posts |
I always try to be cautious about these things
It has a lacquer applied to it
A rather common European custom
Let's face it
The fakes are getting better by the day
I have a Geta sestertius I posted several years ago with the Geta and Caracalla reverse
Another real beauty
But until it got the big thumbs up at a Society Historia Numorum hootenanny
I had doubts
I'm still only 90% sure despite the experts !
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Valued Member
Germany
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I can't add much to which you have already observed. Should it not be authentic, I really cannot tell. But considering everything you took into account, I wouldn't be extremely worried. I can share this authentic specimen from the American Nmismatic Society, just for comparison's sake:   |
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Pillar of the Community
 Spain
2752 Posts |
Maybe just my old eyes....die matches?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1120 Posts |
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Maybe just my old eyes....die matches?  Nice catch! ...Thanks good news FVRIVS |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
1168 Posts |
There is no getting away from it, it's a lovely coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3433 Posts |
That does instill confidence when it seems to match with on one from a "reliable" source
One obvious difference though is the 'proboscis'
My Septimius has a slightly bulbous nose
The ANS version a more slender one
Recut/reworked die perhaps ?
Not being a particularly common variety I doubt there are many different die varieties
But all in all
My doubts are now in remission !
It didn't come cheap this one .......
But I thought it a bargain and well worth parting with something to make
the "frivolous expenditure" budget agree
Sometimes you must give a little to get a little
Many thanx !
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Pillar of the Community
Spain
2752 Posts |
The more I look at these two the more confident I am that they're from the same dies...
@FVRIVS RVFVS......It's a wonderful looking coin!..Nice detail and lovely colouring....
It's a beaut!....Congrats.
Paul
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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first , I don t think it are the same dies : look quickly the beards and the title aug on the obverse , on the reverse the difference between P P and the distance of the inscription from the pointed border ..
But I think it is a real beautiful ancient coin , as I control it with what I have learned from my own experience . Congratulations albert
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Pillar of the Community
Spain
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first , I don t think it are the same dies ... Sorry Albert but I completey disagree!...There are TOO many fixed detailed areas that coincide... I actually feel that the OP coin was probably struck with new dies and has general circulation wear, whereas the example from ANS has more wear on the actual die when struck (believe it or not)..We have to take into consideration the flan surface when struck and also slight angular differences in how the photos were taken... I've had these coins up on screen for a few hours now (Die matching is something I really enjoy working on).. As you know these dies were hand cut and if the majority of key points correspond there is a reason why the others don't and it's not to do with different dies. Anyhow that's my opinion and I'm 100% sure these are die matches...I didn't want to bore everyone with the breakdown I did this afternoon but I will post it if needed.....Paul Edited by Palouche
06/14/2020 4:42 pm
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