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Really Fantastic Lamination Peel From My Dad's Collection (1951-D LWC)

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Looks almost like corrosion, but if you examine the edges of the coin, you can see that the improper alloy mix goes straight through the entire coin (tried to get a photo, but only sort-of visible). I really love this one.



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That is a super-interesting cent @sc. Can you please post the weight? I wonder if it was improperly copper-plated (outside the mint) at one point and that is what we are seeing.
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Gut feeling tells me it is not a lamination. Plated after it left the mint or maybe even copper looking paint. PMD.
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Definitely not plated as you can see swirls of the same colors visible on the surface throughout the side of the planchet. I believe it's a very, very poorly mixed alloy that has resulted in many different flaky layers of metal with a pie-crust like consistency.
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@sc, can you please post the weight?
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Weight is 3.00 grams. Sorry, had to remove it from the 2x2. I had just been re-flipping it, which is why I took the original picture
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Ok good thx. Let's see what the collective of others things about this one. I'm still skeptical, but would be happy to be proven wrong.
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Something just doesn't seem natural about this.
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Of course, Spence, I understand the skepticism. When I took the pictures I was frustrated by the difficulty of capturing the little details like the alloy mix visible in the side of the coin. I definitely realize that it looks a little fishy in the pictures, but I can promise that in hand the alloy layers are very visible.
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If it's all over the coin, this would qualify more as a defective planchet overall.
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Seems like there would be more than one coin of this nature if the alloy mix was wrong.
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Hm, wasn't expecting it to be as controversial as it seems to be. Certainly above my pay grade to say with certainty one way or the other. Perhaps Mike Diamond will see the post and weigh in!

I can't speak to every coin ever struck, jpgrajek, so it may well be that there are others out there like it!
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I agree it is probably plated or painted. What you are seeing is where the plating or paint is flaking off.
Laminations tend to be somewhat linear, whereas partially retained struck through's can be more random in shape(if I remember Mike's previous comments correctly).

I found a memorial recently that was much easier to see the plating/painting.
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It looks like a peeling off an old layer of a foreign substance on the coin, the reverse of the coin very much exhibits that.
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How do you guys account for the same texture/consistency running through the side of the planchet in that case? Seeing a lot of the same suggestions, but no one has given a very satisfying explanation for it being .1 grams underweight or the visible alloy mixture problems in the side of the planchet.
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Coin has been through a hot fire. When you heat up copper the impurities come to the surface when it cools slag forms on the outside then it flakes off. could have happened in the 50 or 60 then circulated for a while.
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