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Dark Spots After Acetone Dip (Plus: Found Old Rolls At Bank)

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So, I decided to go coin roll hunting and chose dollar coins as they don't seem to get hunted that often. My bank had some lose rolls (not in a box) and I decided to get a small amount.

Every single roll they gave me had 1979 P Susan B. Anthony dollars (none were wide rim) and the paper on the rolls was turning yellow. These things must have been there for a while. AND every single SBA in all these rolls came out toned. I've never seen anything like this, but I haven't done this for very long.

I plan to go back as I think they have more.

Anyway, I took a few of these SBAs and put them in acetone, mostly to test results. However, blackish/grey spots appeared on some of these. Most came out fine.

What exactly is going on here? Acetone reacted to something on the coin? Or is it toning itself?

Here's a picture, it was hard to capture all the marks that appeared. But in this pic, it's the blob across the "R" in "liberty" (not the dots in her hair):

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What brand/type of acetone did you use? How long in acetone?
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It was Klean-Strip acetone. One SBA was in it for 2 hours, came out like that. Another was overnight. Same results.

Gave them a second acetone bath just to see what would happen: that was a few hours. Came out the same.
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I like the toning. Please post a pic or two of pre-acetone SBAs. Would like to see the toning.
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I like the toning. Please post a pic or two of pre-acetone SBAs. Would like to see the toning.


Sure. The first pic is the obverse of a roll-ender. The second is the reverse of a roll-ender. And the last two are of the same coin, obverse and reverse (not an ender). The last coin is generally what all these SBAs look like in these rolls I got, but I only got $150 worth. I think my bank has like $500+ more dollars in these things just sitting there. Definitely need to go back.

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I'd love to find a roll of those. Nice!
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No need to do anything, I like seeing those in a toned state! Those last couple are beautiful IMO.
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Nice score.
In the last obverse image, what is the "open oval" below along the edge of her hair below her ear? Is it incuse from PMD or some kind of raised anomaly?

I have seen discoloration (greenish-yellow) on one occasion to some light grease or oil that had dried on 1946s LWC.

If you try soaking any again, try soaking for only a few minutes.
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Hmm, not sure what you mean about an open oval. I can't see it, or maybe I don't understand what you mean.
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Missed the main question....lol


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What exactly is going on here? Acetone reacted to something on the coin? Or is it toning itself?


Acetone is non-reactive. However, it is excellent at dehydration. The black spots were there when you started, the acetone ripped away all the waters hydrating the residue changing its appearance. Or the spots were covered with toning/residue which was removed by the acetone to reveal the spots.

Black residue can only be corrosion and/or surface debris. If you want to continue your experiment, try soaking in xylene next. If the black spots persist, they are corrosion based (primarily inorganic). Black, terminal corrosion can only be removed using aggressive means, i.e. acids/bases, that usually also destroy the collector value of any coin.

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I call those the "Black spots of death". I've messed with coins that have this
and nothing worked for me. I was able to change the spots to white, but they
did not go away. I'd leave the toners as is, they look good to me!!
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I thought it looked like a hairpin.

Here is your image with an arrow added.
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