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Newfoundland 1880 5 Cent For Grading

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 Posted 09/15/2020  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Follow up from Barry - and this tells you a lot about the guy.... the world's most dedicated numismatist....

"To date, I have counted 230, 1873 5 Cent pieces (all varieties) and over 4,500, 1945 coins of both varieties. The 1873 was over a period of 5 years or so and the1945 coins was probably over a dozen years. We also know the common denominators of 40,000 and 203,828 respectively for the original mintages of these coins, which means that I have accounted for .575% & 2.208% of these two 5 Cent dates. The two dates are separated by 72 years which means that many of these older coins likely survived, but might have been worn beyond the point of recognition over this extended period of time. However, I was still able (as a single individual) to find 230 coins and still counting!

I cannot give you an exact number that exists for any of these specific dates, but I strongly believe that many are still around, and likely can be found in the most unlikely places! That is particularly true of the smaller coins which can be lost so easily! "
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 Posted 09/16/2020  07:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheDeductible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Silver (and Barry). That is fantastic.

To clarify, when Barry says 'I have counted', does it mean he has held 230 examples or does it mean he saw 230 examples in various places like the internet?



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I think mostly photographs he's found at the assorted online auctions, primarily ebay but also the assorted locals - Geoffrey Bell and all that. He collects the photographs, examines and catalogues them by variety and establishes rough estimates of scarcity and that sort of thing. It's all quite amazing... he likes to point out that he's just one guy and that other people have likely found lots of things that he has not. There may be a shred of truth to that but I know of no one on this planet who is doing the sort of detailed forensic work that he's doing. At least when it comes to Newfoundland (primarily) and Canadian (secondary) coins.
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 Posted 09/16/2020  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheDeductible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, that is certainly impressive. It sounds as if he's more in to the hobby than anyone. I mean, that's a lot of work to be doing and not getting paid for it. I imagine he must has some future medium picked out for his findings, whether he is working on a new publication or looking to add to the one he has in the works.

I can't imagine anyone else doing all that cataloging and counting, cross referencing and checking, verifying, and identifying coins against his ongoing records. Wow! What a guy! I'd love to see all his stuff. Too bad he doesn't have a website where people can submit pics of their coins for him to add to his findings.

How in the world does he identify and differentiate 1945 five cent pieces when there are so many available in similar condition? Man that's a lot of work. I wonder what the end goal with his research is?
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I think it's just a labour of love. There's a website in the works that will - apparently - describe all of these varieties. Some - like the 1945 narrow date - are pretty significant alterations to the coin (visible by eye). Others are pretty much microscopic in nature. He has categories for all of them...
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