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Strange Indian Head Cent

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 Posted 11/16/2008  6:55 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add akglen to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,
At first glance all I saw was an abused coin but then I noticed the date or rather the missing numerals from the date. Is this just a well worn coin or could it possibly be an error coin?
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Thanks,
Glen
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 Posted 11/16/2008  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, that's interesting!
Judging by the legend, the coin is post-1886, possibly even 1887. Definitely pre-1900.
I see the relief in the obverse legend and date is inconsistent with the portrait relief.
I think it could be due to a very dirty die--or possibly post-mint wear--hard to say for sure from pics.
An expert here might be able to make a better call.
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 Posted 11/16/2008  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
. Can't be an 1877, the reverse diagnostics are not there. Interesting coin though.
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 Posted 11/16/2008  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

I really think it is an 1887. I played with the picture and did some weird things with color and it brought out the date a little more.

Second digit is an 8. On the third digit I could see the upper opening of an 8. If you look at the pictures above, there is a residue of something to the left of the 7 and just left and a little higher is another black "dot" ...That dot looks like the lower opening of an 8.

I suspect that the coin was Struck Through Grease and then circulated since nobody cared about that kind of thing way back when:-) I suspect that the coin was then damaged during that period of circulation. Sometime after that, someone probably noticed the anomaly with the Legend and Date and pulled the coin from circulation and kept it.

In my opinion, it would difficult to imagine a pattern of wear that would leave the detail of the head but wear away the rest like that.

I hope that helps,
Bill
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 Posted 11/16/2008  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I immediately checked if it's a Snow-1 DDO, but the date position is wrong for that die. Oh well, interesting coin all the same!
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 Posted 11/17/2008  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Bill, greased die.
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 Posted 11/17/2008  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add akglen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the input and explanation of how this could have happened. So what does this mean? Is the coin a curiosity that I set aside to look at from time to time? Or is it something special and unique with a premium on its value which I set aside to look at from time to time?

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 Posted 11/17/2008  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that due to the damages, it becomes more of a curiosity than a coin with a premium attached to it.

In some cases, damage can be ignored. In this case, it's too evident.

Thanks,
Bill
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