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1934-S Walking Liberty Blast White Example...thoughts On Grade?

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Bought this coin (it's raw) and just received it today in the mail.
Looks even better in hand with very attractive brightness (Blast White) I believe this came out of a roll and was well preserved.
It's a tougher date especially in higher grade and the striking looks to be above normal on this example.
Like to hear what others may think on a grade.
Appreciate Comments!
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Very nice walker
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EDS ; Full thumb ,head, breast plate and skirt lines . Reverse full breast and leg feathers . Full mint bloom on entire coin . MS-67 .
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hard to photograph this one without getting light washout on some of the surfaces. I'm in at MS66. nice walker
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I'm seeing a lot of friction on these surfaces when I look at the blow up photos. Either AU-58 or MS details for wiping.
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MS details for wiping.
Nice coin but cleaned in one way or another. IMHO
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Can you show us pics with different lighting?
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Agreed, something is off on these surfaces, especially the obverse.
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AU-58+
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I think I see what you all are seeing. They are what I would call "micro scratches" from wiping the obverse, mostly visible in open field areas. It's odd that I don't see it on the reverse though. Am I seeing the wrong thing?
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Wow Nice coin EDS Full details Obverse Reverse no or very small hairlines People who grade this coin as AU , need to study the Waling Liberty and do so without prejudice! MS65 maybe tad better Bob
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MS details for wiping.

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Nice coin but cleaned in one way or another. IMHO

It is well struck but has surface issues.
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.People who grade this coin as AU , need to study the Waling Liberty and do so without prejudice! MS65 maybe tad better Bob


That's what I did, and I came up with AU-58+. tbh it would seem there is more of a prejudice in grading this coin mintstate. This coin has obvious wear and luster disturbance as well as circulation hairlines.

There seems to be a I've seen, mainly in US Numismatics, but also in Canadian numismatics unfortunately where there seems to be a push to grade coins with more and more leniency. There are basic standards that apply to all coins, ie wear and luster disturbance, and signs of handling = circulation. So often now do I see obviously circulated coins getting higher mintstate grades just because of a slightly stronger strike, if I paid MS-65 money and received this coin I would honestly feel beyond ripped.

That said, it's still a very nice coin and I think makes for a very nice example.
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No wear, lots of luster both sides.
Reasonably sharp strike, doesn't affect the grade, but helps eye appeal and thus potentially increases the value.

Also lots of tiny nicks - the sun shows these up quite well.
More obvious nick between the 'B' and the 'E' (obverse).

MS-62 but
could potentially get better value than standard MS-62 money.
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Interesting comments from au to ms67.
I purchased this coin just to add to my (s) Walkers. It looked nice enough to me to acquire as it's already in the mail for grading. Once I get the grade results, I will update this thread to inform all. Thanks for the comments and have a great day!
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1934-S-Walking-Liberty-Blast-White-Example...thoughts-On-Grade?

As Promised, Here's The Update:
PCGS gave this coin MS-Details "Cleaned"
Somewhat a bummer but nonetheless I believe it's still a nice coin. You sometimes never know on coins and will chalk it up to a good learning lesson on "raw" coins.
I'm ok with it with a black eye..lol
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