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 Posted 11/19/2008  3:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SpringCypress to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I think I wrote a pretty good article on the subject of buying coins off the Television. I'd love to hear some of your comments either here or on the site.

The article is here
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 Posted 11/19/2008  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Josh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very good article. I wish there was some way of letting people know these types of things before they buy but there isn't and once they get burned they're usually done with the hobby. These channels aren't doing anything illegal but it sure does seem unethical. I stated in another post that I believe if they were to sell these same coins, but at fair market value, and maybe offer some other more truly collectible coins, that they would do just as well if not better by earning some repeat customers.
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 Posted 11/19/2008  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good article.

Many people taken in.

Many potential collectors lost.
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 Posted 11/19/2008  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tepritts to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for sharing the article. Very nicely done and I hope many, many people see your article. Price gouging is one thing, but all the mis-information these people use is frustrating to collectors.

Keep up the good work.

Just a thought but maybe they should try using an Cherry Wood Box chopped by Washington for the presidental coins.
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 Posted 11/19/2008  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SpringCypress to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It kind of surprised me as well... I knew the prices were high, but I didn't realize just how off kilter they were. Their bullion prices aren't as bad, but are still crazy (I'm seeing about 3x book). But the 7x that I found on the numismatic items was just crazy.
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 Posted 11/19/2008  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sir Ferrari to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great article, I just wish it could be spread to more people/potential collectors.
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 Posted 11/19/2008  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clembo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice article and unfortunately I see this stuff on a very regular basis.

People come in with "collections" that are loaded with this stuff and we pay next to nothing if we buy them at all. SO much of it is useless inventory that does nothing but take up space.

Really is a shame.
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 Posted 11/19/2008  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice job!

I zoomed in on the Lincoln in the example photo.....it's at least an MS65 and the obverse has a hint of rainbon toning. It's a beautiful example, probably a $175-185 coin retail. However, I suspect the buyer actually gets a G-VG coin.

....but, you get that fancy holder! LOLOLOLOL
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 Posted 11/19/2008  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Nice article and unfortunately I see this stuff on a very regular basis.

People come in with "collections" that are loaded with this stuff and we pay next to nothing if we buy them at all. SO much of it is useless inventory that does nothing but take up space.

Really is a shame.


Exactly! My dealer takes that stuff in, rips off the packaging and tosses into the melt pile. I've seen him do that I don't know how many times.

OT...but....this is funny...about 3-4 months ago this guy walks in with a 3 ring binder with pages of Morgans in 2x2's. I mind my business and let the transaction go down. After the customer leaves I walk over to my buddy the owner and he's ripping this thing apart! He tossing (literally) the Morgans ALL into the melt pile. They are banging and clinking. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA It's kind of sad, somebody collected all those, labeled them and thought they really had something. To the dealer it was melt silver!
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 Posted 11/20/2008  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great article. As noted to bad this couldn't be published on TV or somewhere more public.
However, there is or could be a problem. Organizations, such as HSN, could well form a law suite when using their names without actual proof of what is stated. It would have been a lot smarter to just keep to more generalities of what is being sold on TV without using specific organizations names. If they wanted to they could easily find out the name(s) of the authors of such articles and take legal action.
You must remember such organizations have the ability to show and prove why their prices are what they are due to the high cost of advertisements. To prove fraudulant prices only due to comparisons in other places would not work legally.
I would suggest such articles be edited to not use specific names.
Everything said is true but proving it may well be a problem.
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 Posted 11/20/2008  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SpringCypress to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing written is liable or defamatory. This is a consumer advocate piece. I called one of my buddies who's a law professor at OU (FYI--- I hate the sooners) and am in the clear on this one.
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Nothing written is liable or defamatory. This is a consumer advocate piece. I called one of my buddies who's a law professor at OU (FYI--- I hate the sooners) and am in the clear on this one.



Smart move. Better to be safe than sorry.
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 Posted 11/21/2008  01:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I enjoyed reading your article. I think people who shall remain nameless are a disservice to our fine hobby.
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 Posted 11/21/2008  05:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add haidee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice article! very informative.
thanks for sharing it!
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 Posted 11/26/2008  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add L1011 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think I've EVER seen anything offered on the TV coin shows that wasn't priced over several 100% of the actual market price
just last night I saw common date Morgans (1921) sure they were BU, but they were selling them for $47, a coin that's probably worth more like $20
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