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1857 Flying Eagle Cent - Clash-Like Strong Whatzit?

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 Posted 08/12/2020  11:59 pm Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am no expert on flying eagles, but this raised area seems to roughly match what some clashes on these coins look like. I realize the coin is in bad shape, but the obverse still has decent details and wondered if it's just a Johnny's garage coin or if something more interesting is going on here.

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1857 Flying Eagle cent - could that be a die clash?


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 Posted 08/13/2020  04:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting...I would say a clash...rim doesn't really show signs of a vise job...time to look at maddieclashes.com and study. Almost looks like the mule $20...almost
Can't wait to see what the others say about it.
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 Posted 08/13/2020  05:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gincoin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kinda looks like someone cut the eagle and legend(and denticles) out to give them more definition. Is that brownish patch in front of the beak raised?
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08/13/2020 05:37 am
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 Posted 08/13/2020  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kind of appears to be a bit of damage.
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 Posted 08/13/2020  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GMS5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
not quite the $20 clash, perhaps some Grease Fill?
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At first glance it mimics the Clash with the $20, pictured here:

https://www.indiancent.com/catalog/...GS-60419728/

However, the clash mark does not match the positioning of your coin. I would say this is some kind of odd PSD or a stain rather than a mint error/variety.

-CH27
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08/13/2020 1:27 pm
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Definitely not a stain, as the field drops a lot going from left to right along that edge. Could be damage, maybe some odd application of acid, or something else. But what still keeps me thinking clash is that on the neck, and more clearly on the wing, the raised area appears to be raised above the level of the design. That would more likely need to be a clash to occur I should think. Anyway, I still don't really know what it is, but here is a close up showing the neck and wing where the raised area crosses and appears higher than the details.


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 Posted 08/15/2020  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ZenFE99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very intersting looking indeed... Definitely not one of the known the clashes though.
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08/15/2020 1:25 pm
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 Posted 08/17/2020  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Think about contacting mike diamond TB? Might be worth a try.
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The coin is suffering from severe chemical erosion. Whatever corrosive substance or environment it was exposed to has eaten into the surface in a non-uniform manner. The undulating line separates an area of more severe erosion from an area of slightly less severe erosion. In other words, it's not an error.
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Thanks for putting this to rest Mike. Always hopeful but ever doubtful about coins like this.
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