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Few Coins To ID | Assorted Early European

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I'll be honest with you all - I just want to know everything about these coins, so please help
Thanks for any help!

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I don't know, but doesn't it say BORIS on coin #2 middle line?
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DL20K, yes - in my opinion too there is written BORIS But I'm not sure in 100% that this is Boris Godunov coin....
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I don't have time to research, but I think #3 is from Algeria.
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The fifth coin is a liard of the Southern Netherlands (nowadays Belgium), struck in 1610 in the name of Albert and Isabella, archdukes of Austria and rulers of the Southern Netherlands. Isabella was the daughter of Philip II of Spain. She and her husband (also nephew) Albert of Austria received the Spanish Netherlands as a wedding present. Albert and Isabella ruled the Southern Netherlands until their death. As they died childless, the Southern Netherlands returned to the Spanish crown.
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#1: With the two rings of text around a crown it looks like a pragergroschen from Bohemia, or at least a coin imitating one. I can't read enough of the text to be sure, and the lion on the other side (if it's a lion) looks pretty badly mangled. What's the diameter?

#2: Russian Empire "wire money" from the 1600's, a kopek or denga depending on size; I can read "Boris" too, but you guys would probably have better references than me on Russian coins of this time period; Krause is worse than useless for them. If genuine coins of Boris are scarce or unheard of, it might be a novodel.

#3: Islamic, and it looks quite early - the writing style is in the now largely obsolete Kufic script, and not too many Islamic states were still using it after 1000 AD. My best guess is a dirham from either the Ghaznavids (Afghanistan) or a somewhat clipped Abbasid coin.

#4: Took me a while to see any pattern there, but it's a silver (?!?) denar from Hungary - you've got the Hungarian shield on one side, and the Virgin and Child on the other; K and B are clearly visible on either side of the seated Virgin - KB is the Kremnitz mintmark. You should be able to see a date above the shield. These coins were issued from the 1500's to the 1600's; given the distinctly un-silvery appearance of this one, I'd put it in the later period.

#5: What bart said.
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1. 28mm diameter; yes, there is a lion; and yes - it's original prager groschen (I've bought this coin in a numismatic shop) - I've thought that maybe someone will able to id when it was minted (which king) - but Sap, thanks a lot
2. It's definitely Boris Godunov coin - I've found it on this site, number 220119
3. Someone suggested me that it might be Sultanate of Kutch, what do you think about it?
4. Maybe it's a denar from Hungary - it has only 15mm diameter (it's not too less for a denar?); unfortunately I don't see any date on the coin...
5. Thanks
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Someone suggested me that it might be Sultanate of Kutch, what do you think about it?

All the Kutch coins I can find in the catalogues are bilingual, with Arabic/Persian and Devanagari characters. Yours has only Arabic.

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Looking at it again, I can see the King's name begins with WE - so it's probably one of the kings named Vaclav (Wenceslas in Latin). The pragergroschen was introduced by Vaclav II sometime around 1300 AD, but your coin could have been issued by Vaclav II (1300-1305), Vaclav III (1305-1306) or Vaclav IV (1378-1419).
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So, any ideas about 3rd coin?
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Coin #3 now has it's own thread, here.
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Hi! I've found (at last!) something about coin #1 - it's definitely the Prague groschen minted during reign of Vaclav III (1305-1306) or Vaclav IV (1378-1419). On the obverse is definitely WENCEZLAVS TERCIVS (Vaclav IV used title of Vaclav III).
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