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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks legit; what's the weight?
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Pillar of the Community
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1980 Posts |
Quote: Looks legit; what's the weight? this person doesn't have a scale
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Moderator
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Definitely legit, the rims speak volumes. Looks like it was struck on a 10c planchet?
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
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thanks spp I have about 20 people telling me I'm wrong
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
857 Posts |
Color looks brassy, any chance it's in a toonie core?
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Pillar of the Community
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1980 Posts |
Quote: Color looks brassy, any chance it's in a toonie core? I have no idea but I now have about 40 people telling me I'm wrong
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Pillar of the Community
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1980 Posts |
im just afraid the owner of this coin is going to beleive everyone else and get rid of it thinking I'm wrong
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New Member
Canada
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I disagree. For one thing it looks to have been filed down because the removed portion isn't even close to being round. There is way too much intact rim on this example to have been a dime planchet. And a dime planchet fed through the upsetting mill wouldn't result in ANY raised rim whatsoever. The two planchets are far too different in diameter. It would have been pushed through the upsetting mill by the quarter behind it without any rim at all being raised. I superimposed a 1999 dime onto a 1999 quarter in Photoshop: 
Edited by Jim MacKenzie 08/19/2020 8:33 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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1980 Posts |
but the dime would have a rim from the dime upset mill then when struck as a quarter the rim not at the edge of the die would get squished to the same thickness as the center of the coin resulting in a non perfect round shape
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Pillar of the Community
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now you can see how the pattern remaining are pretty much the same from both examples
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Pillar of the Community
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i think either a caliper measurement of the thick side, to match a dime,or a weight, would be needed, to be 100% sure. and where does the edge reading finish..
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Valued Member
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460 Posts |
Nice wrong planchet error. No reason to think anything different.
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Pillar of the Community
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1980 Posts |
i think people are being thrown by the shape but need to understand how the metal will react when not all of it is struck with even pressure 
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Quote: For one thing it looks to have been filed down because the removed portion isn't even close to being round. There is way too much intact rim on this example to have been a dime planchet. And a dime planchet fed through the upsetting mill wouldn't result in ANY raised rim whatsoever. The two planchets are far too different in diameter. It would have been pushed through the upsetting mill by the quarter behind it without any rim at all being raised. Jim, none of those variables apply with wrong planchet errors. 1. The 10c blank was likely a Type 2 planchet, already gone through an upset mill. In fact, most Canadian off-planchet errors are struck on Type 2 planchets. finding them struck on Type 1 planchets is really rare. 2. Without a collar in contact around the entire coin, I would not expect a round planchet. Look at the examples in my PCGS showcases. 3. As long as part of the coin is touching the collar die, the expanding metal when struck, would form a rim. Now, look closer, where the rim fragment means the edge of the coin. That dovetailing is _exactly_ like what you see in a legit clipped planchet. Quote: I have no idea but I now have about 40 people telling me I'm wrong gidjit, you have two known collectors of Canadian coin errors (both Zimmy and myself, both CONECA members) telling you that it is a legit error.
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Pillar of the Community
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lol I think I'm about to get kicked off the site for trying to tell everyone this is real and have a few people telling me you guys dont know what you are talking about including one person who says he knows spp quite well and says he knows nickle dollars but this is not a nickle dollar i just hope the owner of this doesn't throw it away taking the advice of everyone else
Edited by gidjit 08/20/2020 11:39 am
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