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Netherlands East Indies, 2˝ Gulden - Wilhelmina 1943

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Does anybody has information about the thickness of the genuine coin? I seen some pieces, seem to be thicker than the Netherlands 2˝ Gulden - Wilhelmina 1929 to 1940 ones which are 2.5mm thick. The 1943 pcs I saw in the shop is 2.6mm to 2.7mm depending on which spot I measured. Otherwise weight is 25g and diameter 38mm.
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Some numbers: Thickness 2mm genuine, 2.7mm fake
Diameter 38mm both genuine and fake
Weight 25.06grams genuine and 19 grams fake
Edge lettered genuine, reeded fake
Some fakes attracted to magnet while a genuine coin is diamagnetic.
Genuine is coin aligned, fakes can be medal aligned.
Not totally certain and fakes may vary from my numbers. I notice there is no mark under her neck but I think the genuine coin should have one.
Check into it more than I did to see if there are things I missed or didn't get right.
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Coin looks real but appears to be scratched, possibly from a rough cleaning.

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@ Albert

Thanks very much for the information

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I don't often suggest good or fake based on pictures, but I'll say the devices on the coin look shallow lacking well defined edges.
Doesn't look like a coin struck in silver with steel dies. The edges appear flat as if to blend with the field and lack the look of sharply raised metal from being struck with a steel die.
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I notice there is no mark under her neck but I think the genuine coin should have one.


Yes, should be a rosette there? But this area in the OP's photo is a bit dark.

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It could be that the rosette may or may not be present depending on where the coin was minted.
KM# 330 does not show it while KM# 331 does.
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